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Re: Abusive rider





 "It is my experience in life that those who rush to judgement tend to have

hidden character defects. That those who stridently accuse do so to cover 
their own weaknesses.


"This incident" is not the basis for a political movement. It is not the 
launchpad for 1,001 emotional outbursts. It is just another lesson, and a 
somewhat confusing one, due to irrational outbursts like yours, that we can

all learn from. 

Get a brain. 

ti


Easy there Ti - don't rush into judgement.

Cel
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> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: guest@endurance.net; ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: RC:   Abusive rider
> Date: Saturday, July 01, 2000 10:18 PM
> 
> In a message dated 7/1/00 4:37:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> guest@endurance.net writes:
> 
> << barb bkcbs@hotmail.com
>  "It is my experience in life that those who rush to judgement tend to
have 
> hidden character defects. That those who stridently accuse do so to cover

> their own weaknesses.
>  Based on the facts presented thus far, the rider in question is clearly 
> innocent of intentionally killing his horse. And, judging from the
quality 
> (or lack of quality) of the information presented thus far, innocent of
all 
> else as well. It may be that he exhibited, now and in the past, bad 
> judgement--but that is far from demonstrated here with these silly
emotings. "
>  
>  Finally someone has the balls to out a chronic abusive rider, and you
attack 
> him.  This is exactly why people hesitate to get involved. Many of us
could 
> be considered complicit in the horse's demise, because we were afraid to
say 
> anything, or didn't know what to say, or were afraid of retaliation or
being 
> sued.>
> 
> Talk is cheap. It's the easiest way to "get off" on the internet. It's
the 
> very lowest common denominator.  And within that low category is the
lowest 
> of talk--selfrighteous indignation spewed without fact to back it up, in 
> order to make oneself appear reasonably angelic in contrast. It is the
oldest 
> form of hipocrisy, made "respectable" by the Inquisition. 
> 
>  >  "The indisputable point is, had this horse not raced he'd be alive 
> today.">
> 
> Bullshit. That's akin to saying that if everyone had stayed home, no
horse at 
> all would have died, been injured, or even experienced an elevated
heartrate. 
> 
> > This poor creature was abused ...not just this once, but many many
times, 
> only this time proved too much for the valiant animal.>
> 
> Prove it. Or shut up.
> 
> > I feel no pity for this rider...he has no empathy for the horse..
that's 
> painfully obvious.>
> 
> To whom? You? What, precisely, do you know, for sure, that we don't know?
> 
> >  I sincerely hope he  feels remorse and  pain at the animal's
death..maybe 
> it will cure him of ego-riding. Maybe he'll consider the horse's 
> feelings...maybe, better yet, he'll go back to motorbike racing which is
a 
> better sport for him.>
> 
> And I sicnerely hope that you get off on this attack to the extent that
we 
> don't have to put up with another sanctimonious emotional outburst in the

> near future. 
> 
>  >  The fact remains...what do you do to curb people (there ARE others
like 
> him) who jeopardize this sport's reputation.>
> 
> A dozen things, which I'm sure you haven't taken the time or effort to
think 
> about or implement. Start with better onsite diagnostics leading to more 
> accurate VC criteria--and go on from there. Meanwhile, keep the emoters
the 
> hell out of the way as best you can--they're completely useless and have 
> their own agendas which have nothing to do with reality.
> 
>  
> 
>  > People in other riding disciplines have long looked down their noses
at 
> Endurance, I believe in part, because of the potential for abuse (that is
not 
> to say there isn't abuse in other disciplines). In the last 5 years or
so, 
> the Endurance community has worked hard to improve its reputation. 
Deaths 
> connected with rides are a black eye. So are dead-tired horses.>
> 
> Posturing is not the solution--again, talk is the very cheapest commodity

> known to man--you're an excellent example of airheaded cheap talk. As a 
> matter of actual fact, endurance horses are the very best conditioned
equine 
> athletes in existence, and endurance horsemen are the most aware horsemen
in 
> existence. This I tell you from 27 years experience in nearly all the
equine 
> athletic disciplines. Still, obviously, the sport has its share of
airheads. 
> 
>  
>  >  I am totally in favor of Australia's horse passport system (i think
they 
> do this in Europe too).  Yeah, it's more rules, more regulations, and
many of 
> us are in this sport because we rebel against too much control. BUT if it

> will save a horse's life, then I am all for it. So let's use this
incident to 
> galvanize this horse community.
>  -b>
> 
> "This incident" is not the basis for a political movement. It is not the 
> launchpad for 1,001 emotional outbursts. It is just another lesson, and a

> somewhat confusing one, due to irrational outbursts like yours, that we
can 
> all learn from. 
> 
> Get a brain. 
> 
> ti
> 
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