Re: sanctioning LD rides

["Robert J. Morris" <bobmorris@rmci.net>]

Steph:
I am going to combine your answers to Ramey and myself into one post and
answer as well as I can.

<<<<You're right according to the printed rules - 

1.4 Limited Distance Rides may be offered but must be sanctioned into the
AERC
     Limited Distance Program and held in conjunction with an AERC
sanctioned
     Endurance ride and must be regulated by AERC Rules and Regulations,
with the
     following provisos: 
A ride cannot offer an unsanctioned LD ride.>>>

A ride cannot offer Limited Distance Ride, call it a Limited Distance Ride
with our AERC sanctioning. They can offer the same distance and call it a
pleasure ride and AERC cannot do any thing about it.

<<<BUT - according to Courtney Hart, there is an AERC standing rule that
a non-sanctioned event cannot be held at the same time, same course,
as a sanctioned event.>>>>

There is no such thing as a “standing rule”!!!! If it is not in the AERC
Articles of Incorporation, the AERC By-laws, or the AERC Rules &
Regulations then it isn’t a rule.  Now, we have many precedents set in the
past that are ignored. Arlene at one time collected all of these and
submitted them to the AERC. No one cared the least so they were ignored. 

<<<<This came up primarily due to the Cosequin Challenge ride. This ride
is 3 concurrent events - FEI, IAHA and the open AERC 100 mile ride. The
brochure stated that those that pay their $250 entry fee are 'eligible'
for the AERC open event.... implying that they could pay their fees,
do the ride, but not participate in the AERC sanctioned event i.e. not
be bound by AERC rules. The consensus of the competition committee
was that this is NOT allowed - they could not have some participating
in the AERC ride only, and some participating in the FEI ride *only*. 

This is not to say that an FEI only (non AERC) ride cannot be held, 
only to say that *if* there is to be AERC sanctioning of the event, 
then all who enter must be enrolled in the AERC event.>>>>

Any ride put on under the IAHA or FEI banner will not be held with out the
sanctioning of the AERC, This is paramount in the organization of these
organizations.  All AERC rules are in force and in particular read the
preface to the itemized rules. 

What is somewhat confusing is the inclusion of our Rule 14. In the case of
the CC ride there is ONLY ONE EVENT!!! It will be AERC sanctioned or there
will be no points or miles.  The IAHA has approved this ride for additional
IAHA credit as the IAHA National Championship ride for that organization.
The FEI has also further sanctioned this ride for INTERNATIONAL competition
thus allowing this ride to qualify riders, so cross entered, for
international recognition.  Still only one event, the riders have the
option of “purchasing” recognition beyond AERC. 

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

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