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those are good to -40C the ones that are black completely are good to minus 
60. They look and feel the same. I paid $79 for mine on sale reg $104.00. 
The ones for -40 are probably pretty good in alot of places
Paddi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Collins" <c_collins@xxxxxxx>
To: "Ridecamp Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:13 AM
Subject: [RC] re: Paddi's winter boots


> Is this what you're describing?
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> http://www.joessportinggoods.us/basnwibola.html
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