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RE: [RC] Spanish Mustangs/freedoms - Terry Banister

... the outfits that stand fad stallions to 100 or more mares a year. . . 
Check out some of the QH breeders who ship semen on some of the "top"
stallions--and breed over twice that to a given stallion in a year.
Where do you draw the line?
Those are also the ones we are talking about.

. . . As long as someone can responsibly feed and care for their horses, what's the problem?

 It is only a problem when they can no longer do that. And "that" is happening far too often, which is the problem we are discussing.

. . . All sorts of people have their pet agendas for how to "regulate"--and all of them are rose-colored glasses.

Well, then, those people who have all answers because their glasses are so clear, should step forward and fix these problems that we are hearing so much about. It appears that those whose "ajenda" is to breed horses have all the answers, so for the sake of the unfortunate, unwanted horses of this country, we really need to know how to put a stop to the excess horse population ~ not how to most efficiently kill/dispose of these excess animals. But my glasses could be fogged, and perhaps the majority of the population does not see it as a glutted market, just an untapped resource.
T

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> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:47:19 -0700
> From: heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [RC] Spanish Mustangs/freedoms
> To: ebeyrider@xxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; bwalker2@xxxxxxx
>
> > > smaller "backyard" breeders who have basically kept the traditional "using" Arabian alive.
>
> > The operative word in the above statement is "smaller"!
>
> So what is "small??" As long as someone can responsibly feed and care for their horses, what's the problem? I'm probably "HUGE" by your standards, but I'm a drop in the bucket relative to the outfits that stand fad stallions to 100 or more mares a year. Check out some of the QH breeders who ship semen on some of the "top" stallions--and breed over twice that to a given stallion in a year. Where do you draw the line? What makes you the judge?
>
> > And, no one said anything about being regulated on what/how breeders could breed, but the concern is HOW MANY per year, per property size.
>
> No, YOUR agenda was to license breeders--someone else brought up inspection. Guess you haven't read the rest of the thread. All sorts of people have their pet agendas for how to "regulate"--and all of them are rose-colored glasses.
>
> > Our neighborhood already has homeowner regulations on quantity of
> > horses allowed to be stalled per acreage. Many of us already live with
> > regulations.
>
> You live there by CHOICE. I do NOT live there--again, by CHOICE. If a small group of local land owners wants to regulate a neighborhood through local covenants, that's one thing--like-minded people can then live together. The same principles DO NOT work when applied across the board.
>
> > If there is no enconomic profit in breeding quality horses
> > without overbreeding quantity, then large "industry" breeders would
> > have to find another way to make a paycheck.
>
> Profit is not necessarily the driving motive. Many breeders are already wealthy and don't care what it costs--and are willing to breed and breed to try to achieve their goals. Some breeders are actually addicts--these are the "horse collectors" who can't figure out that their horses are starving to death. Again, profit is not the motive. Still others breed because they have a vision of the future of the breed--and are willing to spend their discretionay income to do so. None of these are driven by a profit motive--and the latter are essential to any breed.
>
> >Who cares if the
> > professional racing industry goes down the tubes? There are plenty of
> > other things people can place bets on besides living beings. If the
> > Thoroughbred and Quarterhorse racing "industry" no longer existed, we
> > would not need this discussion. But because there is financial gain to
> > be made from these living beings, it won't go away anytime soon. I have
> > boycotted horse racing since I left the racetrack 30 years ago.
>
> Just for openers, I would bet my next meal that every school child in Kentucky (and any other state where racing or any other equine industry produces considerable revenue) who attends a tax-supported school has a vested interest in the continuation and health of the racing industry. I could probably make an exhaustive list for you of other people who might "care" but I've got other things to do with my week.
>
> Heidi


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