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Kat, you don't know the facts. The route they chose had no other option 
unless they wanted the slow riders to encounter the fast riders coming 
downhill on a single track with a steep bank above and below. So, what good 
would spreading around the fact that I didn't like the route they chose 
except to decrease their entry? That is not a generous thing to do.

RM's work too hard for someone like me to spread around an opinion and 
decrease their ability to put on the ride financially.

If someone who rode the ride this year does not like the route, they have a 
choice not to do it next year. I happen to live here, so I asked the route, 
having intimate knowledge of the trail system, and made my decision.



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> From: "k s swigart" <katswig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [RC]   [RC] Making a difference (was: AERC joining, etc.)
> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:04:42 -0700
>
> From: "Ranelle Rubin" <raneller@xxxxxxx>
>
> > I have chosen to drive 3 hrs to a ride instead
> > of do one 10 min from my house because I
> > disagreed with a particular route they chose,
> > and felt it was not in the best interest of my
> > horse to do that ride. I spoke privately
> > to the RM, was clear on the facts, and did not
> > enter. I "voted with my feet." I did not, however
> > get on Ridecamp or spread my beliefs around which
> > would have certainly caused other riders to elect
> > not to enter.
>
> Like most voting, voting with your feet is better at effecting change if
> you can get other people to vote with you.  HAD you gotten on Ridecamp
> and spread your beliefs around and caused other riders to elect not to
> enter, you would have been more likely to get the ride manager to change
> the course in the future.
>
> THIS is what I meant by stating that sometimes publicly complaining can
> be an effective method of provoking change, and yes, it requires time
> and effort to do so.
>
> kat
> Orange County, Calif.
> :)
>
> While I agree that decending to personal attacks about ride records
> (which went both ways, btw, and Bruce "attacked" Jim's record
> first--although "he started it" is a pretty childish whine) can have the
> unintended consequence of discouraging non-participants in a debate from
> what would otherwise be preferred behaviour at endurance rides for fear
> of having their records discussed publicly, it is also true that if one
> wants to be convincing in public statements it is sometimes necessary to
> highlight the past experiences that the people making the statements are
> speaking from.
>
> It is, in fact, interesting to note that both Bruce and Jim (after
> having their ride records brought up by each other) felt the need to
> give further explanation for them in order to "justify" their actions
> that led to the records in question.  And all riders can benefit from
> reading these explanations while at the same time encouraging people not
> to "rush to judgement" because there may be perfectly good explanations
> for the condensed version of somebody's actions.
>
> CLAERLY (and we know this because the records were brought up) Bruce and
> Jim are speaking from different experiences.  Knowing this helps
> everybody to understand where their opinions are coming from, and
> consequently to better evaluate their validity for their own
> circumstances.
>
> With respect to the stigma associated with having to have your horse
> treated at a ride, this stigma is a two-edged sword.  Yes, the stigma
> associated with it may discourage people who have horses that need to be
> treated from having them treated; however, the stigma associated with it
> may also encourage people to be more careful in how they ride their
> horses so that they won't have to have them treated.
>
> The current effort to remove the stigma associated with having your
> horse treated at a ride, if successful, may have as many unintended
> consequences (i.e. people may become more cavalier about overriding
> their horse to the point where it needs treatment) as having a stigma
> associated with it.
>
>
>
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