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Kathy, if it has to be said that I am "bashing" something, it is the
tool.

I learned the technique of using a "carrot stick" from Parelli long
ago, before he marketed anything, even.  I just don't like THAT
tool's current iteration.  I said NOTHING about his program.   For
years I've used a TTEAM wand with a carrot bag on the end as my
"carrot stick", just loved the combination (the right amount of
"swish") and the humor too.

I expressed an opinion on Cora's opinion that in essence anyone
having trouble wielding the current carrot stick obviously has a
strength and not a mechanics problem.  And I guess an opinion on
yours too if you think I'm doing something "wrong" when I express my
own experience just waving one through the air a couple of times,
like I do with my stick.  Physical or emotional problems?  OK.  I
have your number now, sadly, too.  I'm done posting on this subject.
It's not about endurance, anyway.

Lynne



On Aug 26, 2007, at 9:13 PM, kathy.mayeda@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


> Now this is reaching pretty far into Parelli bashing!   You've got
> to be kidding.
>
> The "orange stick" is pretty much a tool that's very useful in
> getting a point across, but the purpose is not for consistent
> usage.  I think dressage riders use their whips more than a skilled
> PNH person would use their carrot sticks.  Like the post wayyyyyy
> down there in the thread, there is SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE PERSON
> if that is happening.   Either physical or emotional, or lack of
> knowledge or all of the above.
>
> K.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Lynne Glazer <lynne@xxxxxxxxxx>
> OK, let's get the physicist or biomechanics experts to weigh in
> here on forces--these sticks are wielded at waist level, but add
> the mechanical effect of lengthening the arm and I'm sorry, it's
> not strength it's about LEVERS, which puts more force on the cocked
> elbow/forearm junction and the tendons which operate the forearm/
> wrist.
>
> We'll see how you're doing in 10 yrs. I'm sure if a carrot-stick
> wielder has no core strength, the effects are multiplied, as an
> upper arm supported by core strength fatigues more slowly.
>
> Lynne
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Cora wrote:
>
>
> > Someone told me that the carrot sticks use the same core as golf
> > clubs. Well, a golf club is too heavy to be swung at waist level
> > with one hand--for a woman, at least.
> > Almost all the women I know that ride can do this....golf clubs
> > are not that heavy...lol...Cora

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