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I have been assuming that these are rubs because she did not react to her 
web halter rings.  But, on the other hand, she never really wore the halter 
for any length of time.  By the time that I started riding her a bunch, I 
had switched to rope halters mostly.  Would she react inside her mouth as 
well, if it were an allergy?  Also, given the fact that you rub the skin off 
of this horse's face just with a wash cloth while trying to bathe her, I'm 
pretty sure that these are rubs.  I gave her scrapes once while trying to 
get her ready for a NATRC ride.  :-(

Also, as to the size issue, I've checked the size pretty carefully and it's 
not pinching her.  I've also experimented with different sizes of bits.  The 
slightly bigger size slides back and forth with lateral pressure on the 
reins and actually causes worse rubs.

Rhonda




> From: Beth Walker <bwalker2@xxxxxxx>
> To: Ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [RC]   [RC] Bit rubs - need advice
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:26:12 -0700
>
> OK -- another question -- these are rubs and not a reaction to the  metal?  
> An allergic reaction would be a whole different problem.
>
> Assuming it is rubbing, I'll second Jonni's suggestion -- make sure  the 
> bit is wide enough and smooth where it attaches so that there is  no 
> pinching.  It is possible that while the bit guards are keeping  the cheek 
> pieces off her face, it is pinching the corners of her  mouth.  Maybe you 
> can borrow a bit that is a size larger just to see  if that helps.
>
> If you are dealing with an allergy problem, then wrapping the cheeks  and 
> the mouthpiece with a latex bit wrap might help.  You might try  that as an 
> experiment -- just wrap the cheeks and the part where the  bit joins the 
> cheeks.
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2007, at 10:11 AM, RHONDA LEVINSON wrote:
>
> > Any place that metal touches her, she gets rubs.  So, without bit  guards, 
> > she gets both face and corners of the mouth.  With the  guards, it is only 
> > the corners of her mouth, because the bit guards  cover all but that area. 
> >  The bit can be used as either a snaffle  or as leverage.  I've tried 
> > both and got rubs both ways.
> >
> > Rhonda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Beth Walker <bwalker2@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: Ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: [RC]   Bit rubs - need advice
> > > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:46:44 -0700
> > >
> > > Where is it rubbing -- on the face or corners of the mouth?
> > >
> > > Is this a leverage bit or snaffle?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 5, 2007, at 9:31 AM, RHONDA LEVINSON wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am riding a very sensitive, thin-skinned, mare with pink skin  all  
> > > > over her face.  I've been riding her in a side pull, but  just can't  
> > > > get her to collect very well in it and would like to  switch to a  bit.  
> > > > I found a bit that works with her extremely  low palate, but  it still 
> > > > rubs her raw even on a pleasure ride  where she's on a  loose rein most 
> > > > of the time, and even with  those rubber bit  guards.  So, any advice 
> > > > for preventing bit  rubs?  Or for toughening  up her face?
> > > >
> > > > Rhonda
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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