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[RC] Native or Feral? - Smith, Dave

 

Dave, your argument actually underscores my point.  The ecosystem is now entirely different--the "shaping predators" as you call them are not there (and are not likely to be there), therefore the horse DOES damage the ecosystem. 

 

It takes the entire spectrum of the old ecosystem to make it the "same" or to make horses "native.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Heidi, I don’t see how my argument underscores your point.  If you reread my earlier note, I never said that because the horse’s shaping predator is no longer present, the horse doesn’t damage the ecosystem.  In fact, I stated that it is BECAUSE THERE IS NO NATURAL HORSE PREDATOR LEFT, the two federal agencies that manage wild horses must find suitable ways to keep the horse from damaging its habitat.  It is your second point that has me confused, i.e., that without having the old ecosystem intact, the horse is not a native and therefore, a “feral” introduction.   “Feral” and “native” are words with definite meanings.  The fact that during its long absence from its birthplace the horse’s homeland was altered, either by the hand of man, or some other agency, doesn’t make the horse a feral animal.  It is a North American native, as is the elk, mule deer, or pronghorn. To draw a parallel, the great tribes of the plains no longer hunt bison.  In fact,  without such hunters there is no known shaping predator of bison (perhaps it was the huge maned North American Lion) . Thus the bison’s “old ecosystem”  has changed. Does that make them feral? Of course not. (It is true that where they still co-exist, wolves and grizzly bears will occasionally take down an injured or diseased bison, but they are not efficient enough bison slayers to be the bison’s shaping predator.)   Bison evolved in North America just as the horse did.  The horse’s fossil record is quite clear.  Indeed, because it is so complete,  the evolutionary fossil record of the horse has long been used to show how evolution occurs.  And the record shows that like the bison,  the horse originated here, evolved here and that it was in its present form when it disappeared from here.  In my book, that makes it a native.  As to why the horse survived in Asia “with greater numbers of human hunters”  but not in North America, the current theory is that the horse migrated to Asia during an earlier ice age, perhaps as early as 60,000 years ago, long  before modern humans occupied the Asian steppes. When humans began to arrive, they were not the efficient killers they would later become. They had not yet completed fashioning their hunting tool kit.  They had spears, but not yet throwing sticks, and the bow and arrow was many thousands of years in the future.   Also, the makeup of the Steppes gave all the advantages to the horse.  It could detect its predators from long distances.  Once alerted, it could flee in any direction.  So the horse had time enough to learn that humans were a prime predator and evaded humans as they would any other horse slayer. We know from the cave paintings in France, that humans were hunting horses at least 40,000 years ago.  As to you and your Scottish ancestry,  technically, you are a European, not a “Native American.”  By custom and by law, we reserve that term for the descendants of those early Asian hunters who crossed into the New World and began to decimate the fauna they found – including the horse.