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Re: [RC] update on bucky twh.... - Barbara McCrary

How much conditioning has this horse had?  My experience shows that unconditioned horses are lacking in the muscling that helps them go downhill strongly, comfortably, safely.  It takes a lot of strength for a horse to go downhill as well as uphill.  Two recent horses I have worked with showed slightly different responses to coming downhill, but they both improved with added hindquarter strengthening.  The first horse walked downhill with little picky mincing steps, as if something hurt.  The second horse walked downhill with his body slightly sideways ("crabbing," I call it) and he would shake his head back and forth, also as if something hurt.
The first horse overcame all of his symptoms as he developed hindquarter strength.  The second horse is improving every time I ride him.  He comes downhill in a straight line, he is more relaxed, and he shakes his head less.  Of course, he also has a "terribly itchy face" and hates his forelock tickling him, so some of the headshaking can be attributed to these issues.  I will bet that in another couple of months of 3 times a week riding, he will overcome most of these issues.  I feel the difference already.
In both cases, I tried different saddles, thinking that it was a poorly fitted saddle that was causing the responses.  I even thought it might be the bit that either one didn't like, but I've settled into my favorite saddle as fitting both of them acceptably, found a bit each one likes, and from now on, it's just conditioning, conditioning...lots of long slow hills to climb.
Maybe you could avoid the ravines until the horse has developed more strength?
 
Barbara
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: [RC] update on bucky twh....

Just wanted to let all that had responded to me and given me advice on what was going on....
 
I had the walker that had taken me on the "rear- buck" thru the trees...
 
I have limited it down to "ravine" type hills, or the up-down scenario.  We've worked in the open, been doing a lot of hands on, rubbing, just manuevering on longe line just for Me and Him time.  I went to a snaffle bit, took the kimberwick off.  And waiting still to get into vet. 
 
Everything was fine on the last ride, but had my husband on him to see what would happen.  He pulled the same scenario with my husband, brushpopping same as last time, last horse, as he was going down ditch, he takes the bit, heads down the ditch line, in a lunge buck motion.  Thankfully, this was a wider place, and my husband got him circled, and rode the wheels off of him right there.  I've also noticed, coming off the side into a stream bed, or doing a steep 3 length out, he wants to get on the hind end, do a rear like his whole attitude changes in these particular cases.
 
He's fabo out in the open, in the wood on trails everywhere else he walks up hills, baby steps down hills,  crosses water and is controllable.  It just seems now to be in these particular situations.  Anymore ideas?  Don't think this is something I can practice at home now.  Possibly anxiety, anticipation? 

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