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Re: [RC] First Aid Training should be added to our horse training? CA Regs - Eric Drew

ahhh now I understand
 
creams, ointments etc fall under the heading of medications...we can't do that either unless directed.  
 
You may however, Bandage, sling,splint, take C spine precautions, flush with water, cool with ice etc. as these actions fall under your scope of practice as a first responder.  These actions fall under the Duty to Act [ when properly trained ( which as a first responder you are)]while wearing any gear that identifies you as official representative of a public safety agency and you are in your jurisdiction.
 
 
 
--- Eric Drew
--- Firefighter
--- Santa Cruz County Fire
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/8/05 11:13:49 AM
Subject: Re: First Aid Training should be added to our horse training? CA Regs

On patrol one day, we encountered a Japanese tourist on a hike with friends.  Their English was limited, but I came to understand that he had been stung by a Yellowjacket.  There was nothing in my first aid pack that would really be of any use, but I put some sort of cream on it just to make him feel better about it.  I was told when we reported the incident that we could not administer any first aid of that sort.  Apparently, only if it is a matter of life and death can we help.  Even the Visitor's Center cannot administer first aid of that sort.  Gad....some Ziradryl like we use for poison oak itch would have helped.
 
Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Drew
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:24 AM
Subject: First Aid Training should be added to our horse training? CA Regs

Carolyn ; Good Sam Law in CA is the same
 
Barbara, you should check with your Supervisor on the regs [ I can't see State Parks telling you not to act]
 
In California , as a first responder you can apply bandages, C Spine etc , but unless you have paramedic or higher training you can't administer any medications unless under direct supervision of a paramedic or higher.  
 
--- Eric Drew
--- Firefighter
--- Santa Cruz County Fire
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/8/05 9:09:10 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [RC] Woman hurt at Loomis Basin Arena? Perhaps First Aid Training should be added to our horse training?

In Massachusetts, there is a good samaritan law which protects someone who stops to administer first aid.  This was started years ago because doctors, nurses and other trained individuals who stopped at accident scenes were afraid to render aid because of liability. 
 
Carolyn Burgess

Barbara McCrary <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We belong to a State Park Mounted Assistance Unit and all of the member patrol, in pairs, once a month.  Some patrol the beach and some, like us, patrol the forest and mountain trails.  We are required to take CPR and First Aid and keep qualified by reviewing the course at least once every year or two.  It sounds like your training is far better than ours, however.  The peculiar part of our duty is that although we carry a first aid kit while patrolling, we are not allowed by the State to administer anything at all.....no Band-Aids, no aspirin, no painkilling cream for wasp stings, nothing.  We could give someone a Band-Aid, but we can't apply it.  All this because of liability risks.  Is this just a California thing?  Of course, if someone needed CPR, we could administer that in dire cases, but other than that, all we can do is use our radio to call for help (providing we can reach anyone ! from our location) or leave one person with the injured party while the other gallops for help.  I guess it's better than no training at all. 
 
Barbara
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [RC] Woman hurt at Loomis Basin Arena? Perhaps First Aid Training should be added to our horse training?

I concur.  I just finished a ?First Responder? course.  I would encourage everyone who rides ?remote? areas as I do and/or is involved in Search/Rescue to take this course in your area.  Most, but not all, states/counties require their First Responders to take a National First Responder Registry Test, which is ?standard? type of test that tries to ensure consistency in the training.