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RE: [RC] Magnesium for spooky horse? Heidi or Dr. Garlinghouse? - heidi larson

I have an ulitmate spooky horse!!!  Dumped me last year (it WAS my own fault) I was daydreaming and he was watching a scary log approaching!! Wham, I hit the ground (3 broken vertebrae tips later) and I've learned a few lessons.   Took some dressage last winter and my instructor had this wonderful tip for me!!  As you approach the scary object, your horse gives you some clues that he's going to spook, an ear, an arch to the neck, a bend to the body, etc.  Now, I also know my guy who rides in a nice loose ring mylar snaffle, likes his rider to be paying close attention. Not all locked up on him, just paying attention, he may need to gain some confidence that everything is going to be ok.  So, as the rock or log looms ahead, and he gives me the clues, I lift the outside rein, lightly tip his nose away from the scary horse eating monster, give him some outside leg (I now ride in blunt spurs just because I have a bad ankle and can't give much leg on the left side) I also give outside seat bone pressure.  Now, if I get to gabbing with the rider behind me, Ash gets scared much easier.  He's down there waiting for the cue that everything is ok, "you can look away from the scary beast, I'll protect you," and if I'm talking, the cue never comes.  So, in our particular case, it's me that has to watch out, cue him that it's all ok and now the spooks are few and far between, and not nearly so big.  And as far as the food goes, he's always been spooky, even when he was out on 100 acres with no grain, before I got him.  His mom was a spooky girl also, she taught him well. I've been riding alot, he's getting a good amt. of grain, local and eastern grass hay (all he can eat) no alfalfa, I do supplement with magnesium, but it's more because if I don't, both my guys try to eat dirt/gravel on the roads I ride on.  With the mag. they don't. It hasn't seemed to make a difference in the spooking dpt. though, so doubt that was the problem. 
 
heidi larson and Ash (Fabio of the horse world)
 


Jim Holland <lanconn@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Whoa, Whoa! Time out here! Every time I hear about behavior problems,
people want to fix it with feed. Get OVER it! It ain't FEED! Alfafa makes
them HOT, grain makes them HOT. Time to vent. My humble apologies in
advance for anyone I offend.

Folks, it's TRAINING! If your horse is "looking" at all that "stuff"
out there instead of flicking an ear back to you to see what YOU think, you
got a PROBLEM! Spook in place, check with rider, yes. Spook and spin, no,
no, no....

Got to a Parelli class, do some dressage, do something, but FORGET about
FIXING it with FEED. Ain't gonna happen. If you CAN'T fix it with training,
then find another horse. Like people, (New Orleans looting is an example)
there are horses who are NOT worth your trouble. JMHO.

Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic

Richard T. "Jim" Holland
Three Creeks Farm
175 Hells Hollow Drive
Blue Ridge, Ga 30513
(706) 258-2830
www.threecreeksarabians.com
Callsign KI4BEN
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Subject: [RC] Magnesium for spooky horse? Heidi or Dr. Garlinghouse?

Okay, I've had it with the spook and spins. After almost three years of
riding Shahtahr and managing to sit his huge spooks, he finally dumped me at
a CTR this weekend. He was unusually nervous and spooky during the morning
of the ride, and did three huge spooks at NOTHING (drop and spins) within an
hour. The second one sent me flying.

I have heard that supplementing with magnesium can have a calming effect on
some horses. I used it on my mare years ago and I recall it helping
somewhat.

My gelding is on the following feed:

morning:
1 flake alfalfa or alfalfa/bermuda mix (depending on what the barn owner
buys)

evening:
1 1/2 flakes orchard grass hay that I supply (he'd get grass both feedings
but I have to pay for it on top of full board and at $15/bale I can't
afford it)
2 scoops Platinum Peformance vitamin/mineral supplement
1 cup ground flax seed
2,000 iu vitamin E
5 lbs carrots
glucosamine and MSM supplements (MSM is withdrawn before rides)


So....given the above, I'm wondering if additional magnesium would
help....he already gets alfafa in the morning, which I believe has a high
magnesium content, so it might be pointless to try.

Platinum Peformance has a producet called Platinum Gentle that is magnesium,
calcium, and thianine (sp?) - an amino acid that has a calming affect - it
is all legal for competition and is formulated to be fed along with Platinum
Performance without causing any imbalances.

Could this be of any benefit, seeing's how my horse is already getting
alfalfa in the a.m. ?

Any other suggestions to try? Valium, Prozac, Xanax, a bullet? LOL
Just kidding Shahtahr!

Jennifer






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