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RE: [RC] Women's Group - Steph TeeterHey Tom - all of this really is based upon your personal values, what you consider 'effective' (to what end) and whether being effective is even a 'good' thing. In some circles (e.g. International Relations) Ed's diplomacy would be considered very effective, and probably a good thing. Perhaps if one is engaged in illegal activity, being effective would be a bad (morally) thing. Behind every fluff bunny is probably a very intelligent human, who has become quite effective at finding ways to pass the time at a boring job. It's supposed to be 107 degrees here today, I have to go ride - build up that heat tolerance, push those heart rates up a little, trying to be in our best form for Arabian Nights. I think there is almost as much art as there is science in Endurance - when the rubber meets the road, its still about pacing and dealing with the myriad issues that define a 100 mile competition, and the more technical the course, the truer this is. An optimally fit, genetically superior horse is the best place to start, with an optimally fit rider, but 100 miles is still a very very long way... Steph (please don't deride me for babbling on with generalities, I'm effectively procrastinating... it's hot out there) -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ridecamp Guest Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 8:32 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] Women's Group Please Reply to: ti Tivers@xxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== "..women that can help other women over issues unique to us in riding, particularly endurance..." Since about 80% of endurance riders are women, I submit for consideration if any "minority" group needs a special list it is the men. Ed PS. Don't take this post too seriously, just as many men would be embarassed to talk of things related to male equipment I am aware that there are many women who have issues that they don't want to post about where men are likely to read.> No offense taken, Ed, of course. How could you possibly give offense when each of your posts covers all the bases and presents no point of view? However, in defense of logic and accountability, I would have to suggest a more realistic breakdown of the majority/minority situation in endurance. For instance, without doing actual blood sampling, the empirical evidence suggests something more like 80% women, 1% men, and 19% drones in the sport. As always, I consider myself to be in the 1% elite category. Otherwise, why bother with statistics, eh? Since women know women far better than men know, or want to know, women, let me suggest that a woman attack that 80% number and break it into parts as well. One categoy might be, "effective human being". That is, an entity that gets the job done. That would be an elite group, of course. At the opposite end of the spectrum might be "weepers and wailers"--or a more scientific name. Of course, that would include most of the drones mentioned above. And we need a scientific name for plain fluff bunnies. Those who cannot possibly get the job done because they can't figure out what the job IS--again, have to include most of the drones in this category. And Druids and alpha cows. Have to have a category for them--but it's still not necessarily gender specific--witness Joe and Bob. And there's the rub, really. Anatomy doesn't seem to be a genuine qualifier in the categories I have in mind. You have a kind of bell curve between effective and ineffective. The true minority here is the "effective". Those are the ones that need to form a club. Steph, for example, is an effective. But so is John. and there are a bunch of effectives that never post on RC--so we need a "reach out" kind of movement to attract that downtrodden minority. See my upcoming "100" posts and you'll know what they're doing instead of reading and posting here. ti =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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