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Re: [RC] Arabian Numbers+SUPPLY & DEMAND - Becky Huffman

I'll poke my head out and speak as a breeder of endurance horses.  Not in argument, but simply as a matter of perspective.
 
I am first a preservation breeder, breeding within a bloodgroup called BLUE STARs whose foundation horses were designated in the early to mid 1900s.  Within that bloodgroup, I breed for endurance performance first, other performance second.
 
Without going into a long list of success and qualifications in my own horses' family, I'll say that what I have found in endurance is that IN GENERAL, the people aren't willing to pay performance prospect horse prices for endurance performance prospects.  To date, my foals have sold prior to going under saddle so I've never had any 'going' horses for sale, that should say something good about my program.  The two I've sold that are old enough to compete have both done endurance., my oldest 'baby' did her first 100 at Bluebonnet last weekend and I think the owner's pretty happy with her.  the next one did a some LD before being bred and will be back on the trail later this year.  I kept my next year's crop and the others aren't old enough to be on the trail yet.
 
When you talk about sifting through prospects, realize that there are horses available that have shown to have family success in endurance.  The two mares that I bred that are doing endurance are half sisters, through their mutual grandsire, IBN TAAMRI, they're closely related to a several successful endurance horses. His brother TAAM-RUD also sired many success endurance horses.  the first filly's half-brother is successful as was the second filly's sire's brother.
 
What I'm saying is that it is possible to weed the potentials by family.  It's true that you don't ride the papers and that there are no promises, but when you look at a closed group and see a high percent of successful horses on both sides of the pedigree, that should tell you something.
 
now to bring this full circle - back to supply and demand. - there is supply, but until the demand is there, the supply will stay low.  personally, I only breed a new foal each time I sell one, and there are a lot of breeders like me who are careful not to overstep their resources.  So if you the riders want endurance bred horses, you'll have to push the demand.  I have eight mares and have been breeding only two or three foals a year.  If the demand were there I would breed more.
 
 
 
Becky Huffman, Cleburne, Texas
www.TheOriginalSeries.com
 
"Of the long years of peace ... there is little tale."
JRR Tolkien, The Silmarillion
 

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] Arabian Numbers+SUPPLY & DEMAND

In a message dated 4/6/2005 1:04:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Pasang@xxxxxxx writes:
Perhaps for years we endurance folk have had a "free ride" in the horse acquisition aspect of our sport due to market forces driving down the prices of Arabians. But when availability of good Arabian horses gets very low, the prices will naturally go up, way up.
Oh no it isn't a free ride, sifting through prospect after prospect, to find the right combination of ability and heart, The availability is already very low when compared to the availability of average to poor ones being bred at a breath-taking rate up until recently, with the "rejects" finding their way into cheap auctions and often on to the endurance trail, where they may or may not be particularly suitable, either. At the same time, a $10,000 endurance horse is already out there, and some probably rightly deserve such esteem. Most do not - but when the front runners in the pricing market continue to be horses who demonstrate signs of ADD at the end of  a lead and/or mince about a ring for a full 5 minutes before they are dripping with sweat, i cannot help wondering where breeding quality for its own sake went, rather than breeding what is popular this year.
 
We will not likely be paying $10,000 for a "good" one but probably for a REALLY good one or top notch one - probably more. But the rank and file endurance CANDIDATE should not be a $500 weanling or an $800 two year old.
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