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RE: [RC] kineton nosebands - Jim HollandLynn, I don't think this is the RIGHT solution for this problem. This is very common in Endurance and it needs to be fixed between the ears. Most Endurance horses have this problem. Most get over it sooner or later when they figure it out, but it can be very frustrating...and dangerous. My horse Magic was the most laid back, friendly, cooperative, polite little guy you've ever seen in a situation where he was not "excited". I could ride him in a neck ring or halter. But because of his behavior when riding in "group" of horses, I knew he was gonna turn into what we commonly call "a creature you don't recognize" at his first ride. I "planned" his first couple of rides for getting it across to him that we were going to do it my way at my pace. I'm too dang old to put up with that at every ride. At home I drilled him in: 1. From the ground - Staying out of my space 2. From the ground - "WAIT" (park your feet or we will practice ground manners until you do) 3. From the saddle - Stand still (Park your feet or we will, turn on hind, turn on fore, back, sidepass left, sidepass right, drop your head until you do) My techniques are at: http://www.seraonline.org/Training/Training%20For%20Endurance.htm This worked great...at home...and he became a perfect gentleman at all times, but I knew it would all go by the wayside at his first ride. IT DOESN'T WORK UNLESS YOU RE-TEACH IT UNDER RIDE CONDITIONS. It will take less time, but you must start over again there. I picked the toughest, hilliest ride in the SE for his first ride...and did the 50 with no intentions of finishing it. He was nervous in the ring warming up with the other horses but was handling it. Just before start, I went back to the trailer and let everybody else leave. I LEAD him out of camp, getting on his case every time he misbehaved. When he calmed down, I got aboard and we walked down the trail. If he tried to trot without being asked, we pulled off to the side and practiced manners from the saddle. The 25 milers started an hour later and I knew the "hot shoes" would blow by pretty fast. Sure enough, Magic turned into a basket case as soon as the first one went by. I got off, and we practiced ground manners off to the side of the trail until he calmed down, then started over. By the time the last one passed us, he could "handle it" and would stand quietly when they passed. He didn't like it, he wasn't perfect, but he knew he couldn't win and he hated the ground manners routines. <grin> By the end of the day, the ground manners and a lot of hills had changed his perspective! It took a few rides, and he still "asks" to go and pulls on me early, but I ride him in the lightest hackamore made (E-Z hack). Keep in mind that if you let them "run" when they first start Endurance, then it's harder to "fix"...i.e. may take longer to gain the control you need. IMHO, training their mind early is as important as conditioning their body. Good Luck... Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ridecamp Guest Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:40 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] kineton nosebands Please Reply to: Lynn White lynndeepoo@xxxxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== I am really trying to incorporate the "start slow" strategy, as I will be attempting a 100-miler this season. My mare came to me with a very hard mouth and an attitude to go along with it. Anyway, I saw an article in the Horse Journal about nosebands, and they showed a kineton and what they are typically used for...horses like mine! Has anyone ever used one of these nosebands? They are kind of pricey and I don't want to invest in one unless there is a good probablitity that they will be effective. Thanks! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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