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Re: [RC] Rabies, dog foaming at mouth - Margaret DinanThe stiffness could have been related to abdominal pain if the dog developed pancreatitis as a result of ingesting the bacon greast. The salivation could have been related to the nausea and abdominal pain. I hope this dog is okay. m ----- Original Message ----- From: <rides2far@xxxxxxxx> To: <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <Marv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: [RC] Rabies, dog foaming at mouth I can tell you to open the dog's mouth and look for a wedged objectO.K. Apologize for turning this into a dog list but slight update. I've had a dog with the bone in the roof of the mouth thing before and I did check for that running my fingers all along her teeth and over the roof of her mouth and even down her throat a ways though she wasn't choking in any way. The chicken had no bones and wasn't even that old...mom just felt it had been in the fridge too long. This morning her attitude was not in any way distressed. She was trotting back and forth and not distracted looking. Maybe a *tad* quiet but not so much as to be alarming. The stiffness last night seemed momentary, and she was on the porch, the other dog was in the yard and they were looking at each other. It's not unnusual for the two of them to have playing fits where they run, tackle, freeze and stare, then burst back into action. The scuffling noise could have been from playing...but that didn't explain the salivation..unless they were playing by getting some varmit they shouldn't have touched. Why did I post to ridecamp instead of heading for the emergency clinic? Because the dog seemed to be in no discomfort and I got, as I expected I would, good veterinary advice back from RC faster than I could have even gotten to the clinic. My biggest fear is the bacon grease thing. Can't believe I've never heard of that. Many a time I've poured bacon grease over dogfood as a treat, but this was a full soup can divided between 2 dogs and she may have taken the other dog's. Went back out to check on her within an hour of my post and she's missing. I've been hiking in the rain looking for her in the woods and no sign. It's not unusual for her to disappear for half a day hunting varmits but I'm nervous. She certainly didn't appear to be even lethargic so I'm hoping this is a case of a dog that grabs things she shouldn't, has reactions, and keeps on doing what she always does. Wish me luck. Now...just to keep this at least *equine* related, anybody want to tell how often I should get my horse's rabies shot renewed? Angie , possibly a bone between the molar arcades at the roofof the mouth but it could be anything anywhere. I have had this happen with both dogs and horses. Pop the thing loose, the slobbering stops and everything is back to normal. For what it is worth I think the slobbering is the body's way of softening the object.This is certainly a possibility, and I already e-mailed Angie privately with the other one that would concern me--which is acute pancreatitis. With the above, the "reason" for salivation is a combination of the stimulus of having something in the mouth and the inability to swallow properly because of the foreign body. Pancreatitis can cause salivation just because the whole digestive process is put awry. In addition it can be VERY painful--which could cause the rigid stance, the not associating normally with the owner, and the reluctance to do much of anything. Mild cases of pancreatitis may be weathered fine, but it CAN be a potentially fatal emergency as well. The main culprit causing pancreatitis is a fat overload--bacon grease, butter, fat trimmings from the family meat, etc. are all common culprits. 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