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RE: [RC] Trimming for Riding/About Vets-Feet - Karen Standefer>>Take a look at the mustang hooves on www.tribeequine.com <http://www.tribeequine.com> << (it's www.tribeequus.com BTW)Those mustang hooves don't mean a thing. They are dead, dehydrated and not typical of a live mustang hoof. The only weight bearing x-rays that have been done of LIVE feral horses show the coffin bones to be elevated 5-7 degrees (studies done by Bowker, Page, Ovnicek, et al). Because of the way the hoof/leg work together, looking at a cadaver (even a moist one) is not at all indicative of the way the coffin bone should be oriented in a live horse. Nearly all horses with ground parallel coffin bones have a subluxated back coffin joint axis (which can be seen externally by the broken back hoof/pastern axis). The Strasser/Jackson methods do not talk about the correct boney column alignment with is so very important to the long term health of any horse, but even more so with an endurance horse that is doing many miles on a consistent basis. The vet's comments to Dyane about getting the rear coffin bones elevated on Dyan's horse is a good thing. Especially in the rear, if the DDFT is put under excessive strain from the coffin bone being too low, it will affect the whole back of the horse (Joyce Harmon, Gayle Trotter, Judith Shoemaker), and also makes the horse susceptible to hock arthritis. Ground parallel coffin bones can be the cause for ringbone, degeneration of the articular cartilage between the joints, occification of the impar ligament, pedal osteitis and a myriad of other maladies. Many of you on the list may remember a couple of years ago that I was a staunch supporter of the ground parallel coffin bone. Well, my horses were almost ruined due to me trying to ensure that their coffin bones stayed ground parallel. Luckily, they have basically good feet and those feet fought my efforts every step of the way. In the process of trying to figure out what is right and what is wrong, I discovered that there is absolutely NO research work or case studies to support the ground parallel coffin bone theories (or the 30 degree hairline theories). And, in fact there is a huge amount of research work and common sense anectodal evidence to support correctly aligned coffin joints (which will not give you a ground parallel coffin bone in 90 percent of the horse populaation). >>I just haven't found one yet, who knew as much as my hoof care specialist (another term for a certain kind of very educated barefoot trimmer). And I have tried.>> The "Hoof Care Specialist" if schooled ala Strasser or Olivo, have learned some very incorrect information about hoof biomechanics (and a bunch of other stuff as well). I would ask for the case studies and research to prove the theories that they use. Don't go blindly following (been there, done that), it's your horse that will pay for it. Oh, and BTW, they get no where close to 800 hours of hands on or even class time. Olivo specialists get 10 days in class/hands on, Strasser specialists get 9 months with most of that time being home study (classes are in Canada with a couple of 2-3 day practicums in the US). At the finals, in Canada, they get 5 days of hands on wtih Dr. Strasser. My fiance was Strasser certified (and lived with me while he was in school), so I know about this first hand. Karen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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