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RE: [RC] Re. calcitonin - Mcgann, BarbaraI believe it is more than possible. My own experience more than proved it. Quick synopsis: 10 years of endurance riding multiple horses in Utah. Never even knew what tie-up was. Moved to Idaho, bought land. Over the next 8 years, 4 different (different breeds, sizes, sexes) horses tieing up. Went through every possible management issue...grain, hay, ride schedules, hauling, electrolytes, warm ups, blood testing every week, feeding magnesium, potassium - everything. All of them not only tied up, but tied up HARD. Always within a few miles of the start, and usually worse as they got FIT. I got so experienced at it that I could recognize the first skip in their step and stop them before they did much damage. Many times the vet would say, shes not tied up. I would say, oh, yes, she is and the blood tests would agree. Finally had our water tested, it was super high in CA. (don't have the test results here, so can't quote #'s). We had a water softener installed on our horse lines. That was the magical bullet. Have not had a tie-up since and we have had at least 5 horses competing from our ranch since. None of them have had one slight problem. Its worth a try either way, whether its the extra salt from the conditioner, or getting rid of the CA in the water. Think of it this way...you are carefully controlling how much CA your horse gets in its grain and hay, but everytime he dips his muzzle in the water, he's inhaling it. Barb McGann, AERC # 840 -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Susan E. Garlinghouse, D.V.M. Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:48 PM To: papeck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'ridecamp' Subject: RE: [RC] Re. calcitonin Susan..Is it possible to have an inbalance of Ca (high) due to hard well water enough to cause tie ups in a horse already prone to tie up? I have a horse who has always been prone to tie up on well water but not on soft water. Patty I suppose it's possible, but boy, that would have to be some seriously hard water, ie liquid concrete. Since there's a fair amount of salt used in softening water, I wonder if the issue at hand isn't really an electrolyte deficiency. In other words, the tying up goes away when your horse is getting more salt? Might be worth supplementing some more elytes and see if that does the trick? Susan Garlinghouse, DVM =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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