RE: [RC] It Ain't Florida This Time yahoo no more 2004 you decide hype - ColleenSupersat2It is good to reply... Kerry is a traitor period! Spending is in the hands of Congress incase you didn't know...we claim it's the pres...but it's not...we claim it's the democrats - no we claim It's the republicans.. and it's our government...The all spend! Kerry would have been no different. The jobs that went away, over seas, you can thank NAFTA that was Clinton's watch. I am not defending Bush...I am stating the facts. Our government has contributed greatly to the demise of the American Dream. Taxing small business so much we don't make a profit. Employees demand wages that are supported by the cost of the products being manufactured. If a product cost 5 buck in material 5 bucks labor and the company over head is 5 bucks to open the door, and if the item sells for only 9 bucks tell me how this company is going to offer medical insurance or keep their doors open. Yet we the people...are working hard to keep our government in funded so the legislators can keep spending money and adding programs to the tax role. A president does not spend the money...he reject or okay it and if he veto's it the legislature supersedes him. Our economy was on the way down because the dotcommers had stock over priced...that was fraud...really. It was the new way to make money... Mind you we do not manufacture anything any more...what made our nation free was our ability to manufacture what we needed and it kept our money in our country paying our people. Our government for years has been lowering tariffs (not Bush) to encourage imports...we Americans won't pay the cost for our products because China/Japan/etc are sending same items we use to manufacture but they are 1/2 the price...therefore our companies close down and we are not relying and vulnerable to China/Japan etc...For all that we wear, tools we use, you name it. By the way the food that we grew is lessening too by 25% per year. We will be vulnerable for our food too and soon .,.so who you going to blame...Bush. the government or us... This is the worst economy but it wasn't caused by Bush...it's been happening for years..it's just getting here...Clinton didn't grow/make the economy better...our computer business made that happen...it's was the computer age's time...it reached its peak and fell. Then there greenspan upping the interest rate so high no one could pay off the credit debt...greenspan manipulates our economy and don't think other wise...or you will be incorrect. There is so much to be said...good point for both of us. Thank you for the dialog...I appreciate and look forward to your response. Colleen -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of brncntry Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:33 AM To: ColleenSupersat2 Cc: Ridecamp Subject: RE: [RC] It Ain't Florida This Time yahoo no more 2004 you decide hype Okay, I KNOW I'll get blasted, but.....c'mon!!! You're for Bush but are complaining about spending? Who do you think is doing the spending? Passing legislature against us? Again....who do you think is supporting that? and "May our world be in peace, love, prosperity and good health." Bush has initiated war, the US is in the worst economic condition it has been in for years, we have been kicked out of the UN, and have you spoken with anyone concerning the price of medication lately? We aren't even allowed to buy it from Canada anymore.....all thanks to Bush. Sorry, but had to respond..... Esther and Chagalle, who worries about the price of his feed going up and up and up --- ColleenSupersat2 <colleen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: It's a good thing that Bush won...Kerry, betrayed our Viet Nam troops and that's his record not my imagination. And for that issue along, our troop's lives would be in jeopardy with Kerry as the "commander and chief. On a lighter side The Wilderness act will at least stay stagnant for 4 more years. Bush supposedly will not be adding acreage to the Wilderness Act. He has actually opened a few roads up here in Idaho..We are happy about that. Divided??? You know I would never think of asking a person I am riding with if they are a democrat or republican, do you? The government would like us to think we are divided..But it is our government that is divided...they need to change their mindset and work together. They need to get to work and represent the people that put them there...and stop passing legislature against us. The concept of NOT SPENDING isn't in their scope of thought. And no more 2004 you decide hype...and that is a good thing. Ride long, ride safe and smell the winter in the air. May our world be in peace, love, prosperity and good health. -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon.Linderman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:04 AM To: Howard Bramhall Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] It Ain't Florida This Time Well howard all I can say is remember not all people who live in Ohio are FROM Ohio. Jon "Howard Bramhall" <howard9732@xxxxxxx> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: cc: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxx Subject: [RC] It Ain't Florida This Time durance.net 11/03/2004 08:56 AM What a country!!!! Ha, no politics on Ridecamp? Who said that one? You're joking, right? Well, I never heard of a provisional vote before but looks like we're all getting a good education on what it is today. OHIO. Whew, thank goodness it ain't Florida this time. Looks like Bush coming down here and passing out ice after each of our 4 hurricanes paid off. ICE is damned important when you ain't got no AC. Well, for me, it's over. Kerry can drag it out for 11 more days, but, there's just no way. For awhile there, I was hoping W would get the popular vote but lose the college. Pay backs are a BIT (oops, that words on the list of ones not to use). I'm going to go take a nap. Been up all night. Not sure why I care so much, but, I do. 4 more years. I know that's going to make some of ya'll quite happy. We'll see. I wonder how our boys in Iraq feel about all of this? I know how I'd feel if I was over there. God bless America. It's a shame we're so divided in this country. It could have been done so differently. Didn't you get the feeling, right after 9/11, that we were more united than ever before. And, what happened? It's a darn shame we weren't able to maintain that feeling even though it was because of such a horrible event. Someone owes me a case of beer. IT's good to lose once in awhile. Lose the election, gain some weight. This case just might tilt the scales and make me a heavyweight, without the water bottles. Please, send beer, to me, Howard Bramhall, 67 Buckskin Lane, Ormond Beach, (it's not us this time)FL 32174. I wish I was in Tennessee but, alas, not till Thanksgiving (soon enough I guess). No matter where I be, after this election, it's time to do some serious drinking! Go riding today. IT's a beautiful day and one where everyone should be glad that we live in a land where we can actually choose who our President is. I dont' think it quite works that way over in the UAE. And, to my fellow Democrats on here (how many of ya? 4, maybe?), even though you might be a little depressed, think of the camel jockeys over in the UAE and what their lives are like. This won't cheer you up but it might get you to thinking that there are worse things going on. Things not covered on the news. At least not yet. But, after the election, they will need something to discuss. Too bad CNN doesn't have a Ridecamp channel. cya, Howard (politics sure ain't pretty; freedom covers all, the good, the bad and, the ugly) _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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