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RE: [RC] [RC] Endurance topics! - Howard BramhallWhat is so weird about those three horses is this is exactly (except for the top ten part) what happened to me and Dance Line years ago. It was the refluxing that freaked me, and the vets, out. Refluxing at an endurance ride, at least back then, was very unusual and one of the reasons why two vets told me that night to be prepared for Dance Line not making it through this ordeal. They thought his stomach might have ruptured and if that was the case, he was a gonner. Luckily, his stomach was fine. Even though we did that one loop fast (the first one) the rest of the ride was not like that for us. He drank very well (this horse must drink) and when they pumped out his stomach, after it was apparent he was in trouble and had refluxed, he had so much fluid in there you could have filled a bath tub with it all. Given all the choices listed here, the only one I can think that applies to Dance Line would be the cold water and, possibly, riding fast that first loop. The ride I attended in South Carolina was in March and it was a cool one, by Florida standards. Even though the water wasn't freezing it was much colder than what a Florida horse is used to (anything below 80 degrees). What a freak occurrence here. I hope we can come up with an answer. AFter 5 years, I still don't know why it happened to us but it did change my behavior dramatically. The horse will always come ahead of the sport, to me, and if that means I no longer do the sport because of it, so be it. The trail will still be there and that's all one ever really needs. cya, Howard (blasphemy, Howard, blasphemy) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "steph teeter" <stephteeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] Endurance topics! Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:50:20 -0600 OK - it's time to go back to Endurance discussion. Most of the topics lateley are very generic 'horsey' topics. Fine for other lists, but Ridecamp is for Endurance related discussion. I'm going to start sending reminders out more frequently - we're losing too many folks who have been on the list for years, because there's too much chat. There are plenty of horsey chat lists out there, I want to keep this list focused on Endurance, or else we'll lose it. Here's a question for you - after a ride last weekend, three horses coliced - all were top ten, all fit and seasoned horses, all had great vet scores all day, no indication of trouble. It was the first rainy cool day we've had all summer. Lots of water on the trail, in creek crossings. All three horses had reflux on arrival to the clinic, all three had ileus - basically the gut shut down, little or no activity in the small intestines. Their stomachs were full of fluid, but the hind gut was dry. All three horses eventually recovered, but spent 2 days at the clinic. One of the horses (a horse of mine that a friend rode) had discomfort right after the ride, hyperactive gut sounds - she was given a shot of banamine, and a newer drug which is a smooth muscle relaxant - reduces intestinal spasms. After the drug wore off (around 2 hours) she was still uncomfortable, and when I took her back her gut sounds were minimal, and she had some reflux when tubed. I've never seen anything like this at a ride before - three horses (out of 22 starters) with identical colic. Any ideas? Cold water? Bad feed? Too fast? The horses finished 3rd, 4th, and 7th, over an hour behind the winning time. One of the vets thought there might have been sort of toxic plants involved. Steph =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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