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Re: [RC] Need Hoof Data - Bette LamoreHi KarenAll the data you are asking for is irrelevant unless you have the data of the horse's shoulder angle which should match the pastern angle according to my farriers, as well as the way the cannon bone comes out of the knee-- straight down? offset? These are things that all have to be taken into consideration. Mark does much of my trimming on all the horses with no special needs; however, I get the experts in here for anything we need help with and for clients' horses. Now when I say Mark does our own, I should point out that we have had some of the top farriers on the west coast work with us who have set some innovative practices used nationwide--- everyone from a Gene Armstrong (Cal Poly) intern to Don Birdsall (Alamo Pintado) to Moses Gonzales (very controversial) to Michel Kaplan who told our farrier what do do to fit with his neurokinesiological view of what should be happening. We had all these specialists because we took on a horse who the vets said to put down ages ago due to chronic laminitis (caused by spiking a high fever on Christmas Eve and no vet picked up the messages so he sloughed off his hooves) He was such a great stallion (Explodent-- 3 times Top 10 at Scottsdale) that the owner couldn't bear to put him down and during the great fall of the Arabian market, could no longer afford his treatment. We became partners and tried everything--- some techniques worked for a while and then had to switch courses ) like tacking in a sailboat--- no one theory covered it all) and successfully kept him reasonably comfortable (being in with several mares at a time did not hurt :-) ) Mark watched and learned from all these farriers and each time Mark would trim, I would have my farrier come out and critique and give Mark pointers and now he is at the point that he can do it professionally BUT at 6'5" it kills his back so he is not giving up his day job :-) Sooo what I am suggesting is that you find a VERY good farrier and have him work with you and let him know that you are not going to replace him, but just supplement his work by doing some of the easier work (my farriers never did not like regular trims but rather preferred the challenges of corrective work and shoeing) and save him for when you need shoes or corrective work and intermittent trims to make sure you are on the right track. Just a suggestion Bette Karen Standefer wrote: 'm trying to gather some statistics regarding healthy barefooted horses (or other self trimming or semi self trimming working horses). I figure the endurance community is the best place to look for these horses (eventhough I realize the barefoot population is very small). -- Bette Lamore Whispering Oaks Arabians Home of Bunny and 16.2h TLA Halynov who lives on through his legacy Hal's Riverdance! http://www.arabiansporthorse.com Always remember: "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." (George Carlin) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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