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[RC] Spooking and punishment - Dot Wiggins----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed & Wendy Hauser" <ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Lif Strand" <lif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [RC] Spooking and punishment . As far as negative reinforcement not stopping a horse from spooking in a particular direction, that is just not so. While I will be the first to admit that sometimes horses spook into things that hurt them, most of the time they do not. I'd be willing to bet that the subject horse does not spook into the fence, gate, electric fence, or barn when he spooks. If he is that out of control that the normal things around a farm cause him to blindly spook with no regard to his safety, the cure is far beyond my abilities and I will gracefully bow out of this discussion. Horse may not be a sane, smart, individual with the normal self preservation instincts? And the herd boss will threaten, shove, bite, kick, or whatever it takes to keep the offender out of their space. The horse that refuses to respect the other's space is either not very smart, OR MORE LIKELY, is challenging for leadership status. As a horse handler, you have the choice of enforcing your own leadership staus (much has already been said about how you get to be leader) OR expect to be stepped on, run over, and other wise be the underdog. And the disrespect usually carries over to mounted situations, too. There is a difference between an appropriate negative reinforcement and abuse or beating. In a herd of horses, the dominant individuals teach the young ones by the use of negative reinforcement. Ed Ed & Wendy Hauser 2994 Mittower Road Victor, MT 59875 ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx 406.642.6490 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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