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Re: [RC] Deaths - the list - Barbara McCrary

I'm another one of those people who have a demanding curiosity to know "what
happened", and I've never been to vet school.  However, I've been the
"family vet" here on our ranch for over 50 years, and I want to know what's
going on with all our animals.  This morning, I just caught up one of our
cows that has  "woody tongue".  Her tongue was so swollen and stiff that she
couldn't eat or drink.  One learns a lot of things about animal health, if
one just lives with it long enough.  I'm with Susan G. on this one.

Barbara

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Garlinghouse" <suendavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Jim Holland" <lanconn@xxxxxxx>; "Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] Deaths - the list


Regarding the proposal that every horse that dies at a ride should be
necropsied---I agree with Jim that such agreement should be included on
the
liability waiver, with maybe the penalty for refusal being loss of points
for the entire year or some such.

As for payment---I can only speak for myself, but if I were vetting a
ride,
and a horse died on my "watch", it would drive me totally nuts *not* to
know
what else might have been going on inside.  It does potentially cost a lot
of money to take tissue samples for lab analysis, but it seems to me that
the majority of diagnosis of gut torsions, lipomas, ulcers, aneurysms and
so
on can be made with just a sharp knife and a little time, and further
analysis would very rarely be necessary.  It doesn't seem unreasonable to
ask one of the ride vets to perform a quick necropsy on site, especially
if
some help were available from any other willing hands.

No, it isn't pretty.  Yes, it is probably very upsetting for an already
upset owner to watch (and I would suggest them not watching), although the
possibility of knowing that "this wasn't your fault" might be a strong
mediating factor.  I know speaking only for myself and with only one
exception, I necropsy every one of my own animals that have died, if only
to
find out what might have been missed, treated differently, prevented, or
to
protect my other animals.  I'll bet every other vet here does so as well.

As for site contamination, every large animal vet knows how to quickly and
neatly put a carcass back together again sufficiently for neat removal (we
have to do it all the time for cattle).

I dunno, maybe I have a bad case of New Almost-a-Vet Enthusiasm and I'll
be
a lot less likely to volunteer vet services ten years from now.  All I
know
is that a group of two senior vet students can jump onto a Holstein
carcass
and have it necropsied, thoroughly examined and put back together again in
less than 30 minutes.  If it's really cold out and Friday afternoon...then
we can get it done in about 15!!! <vbg>

JMO.

Susan G



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Replies
Fwd: Re: [RC] Deaths - the list, Karen Clanin
Re: Re: [RC] Deaths - the list, Barbara McCrary
Re: [RC] Deaths - the list, Jim Holland
Re: [RC] Deaths - the list, Susan Garlinghouse