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Four year olds are pretty goofy.  My experience is that a brain is 
usually delivered somewhere around 5 years old and until then 
everything is in the mail.  Right now I'm riding a 4 1/2 yr old gelding 
and I won't make too many assumptions about training for another year.  
Until that time, I figure he could do almost anything and it's up to me 
to keep his rides at a reasonable threat level that he's constantly 
thinking but gentle enough that it doesn't scare him to death.  If a 4 
year old has been under "professional" training for 2 years, he was 
probably started way too young and will need some really good handling. 
 Do you have any VERY tall horsey friends around?  My now 15 yr old 
mare reared once and tried once before that.  A 6'4" friend of mind got 
on her after the first try and rode her until she tried again.  At 6'4" 
against 14 hands, he was able to slide off her butt, put both feet on 
the ground and be back in the saddle before her front feet hit the 
ground. She never did figure it out....but she never reared again.
Maryanne
Cairo, Egypt

On Saturday, Aug 16, 2003, at 22:58 Africa/Cairo, Karen Sullivan wrote:

> What are you asking the horse to do.....that causes him to rear?
>
> I few other comments....is, how long at his horse been under saddle?  
> Sounds
> like perhaps pushed too hard at a young age. At four,  you need to be
> establishing GOOD habits, by making it easy for them to pay attention 
> in
> very short lessons or rides, and having a buddy horse along on the 
> trail
> also helps a lot.  Do NOT ask things of them they are not ready for...
> Karen.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Lra1222@xxxxxx>
> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 10:59 AM
> Subject: [RC] Rearing (slightly OT)
>
>
> > Hi all. I am working with a 4 year old Arab gelding who has had 2 
> > years of
> "professional training." He behaves really well for a while, then acts,
> well, FOUR, and then is good again. He was trained for hunter 
> pleasure, then
> got 7 months off, and I have been working him for about a month now. 
> He is
> EXTREMELY smart- when he learns he can't get away with one thing, he 
> tries
> something else. OK, so down to the problem-- his new evasive tactic is
> rearing-- which I HATE!! I can deal with bucking and spinning, which 
> he also
> tries occasionally, but not rearing. I don't want him to fall over on 
> top of
> me, ya know?! I have checked saddle fit, teeth, etc. and can't find 
> anything
> that may be causing pain. I really think he is just acting his age! I 
> just
> want to find out how to stop the rearing before one or both of us gets 
> hurt!
> Any ideas? He is not my horse, but I do work him 3-4 times a week. I 
> try to
> vary the routine so that he doesn't get bored, hoping that will help 
> with
> the problem. He has reared about 4-5 times now, and I am sick of it. 
> As far
> as trying to keep him moving forward, I try- he will slam on the 
> brakes just
> to rear and spin. AUGGGHHH! Okay, this is long enough, just trying to 
> give
> some background info. Thanks in advance for your help-- ya'll are a 
> wealth
> of info, so I figured someone would have an idea!!!
> > Lindsey M21756
>
>
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