[RC] Mojave Greens (and other rattlesnakes) - k s swigartI found Karen Chaton's links about snakes very informative and must confess to also being more concerned that I might accidentally get shot by somebody with a gun who is worried about snakes than I am about accidentally getting bitten by a rattlesnake, even an 'aggressive' Mojave Green. :) To quote from her links: "The most venomous snake in the desert, the Mojave is often called the "most aggressive." But even the Mojave would rather flee than fight - why waste a lot of energy on something too big to eat?" And: "Sex: Males are bitten more commonly than females. Age: Young adults are most commonly bitten. Causes: A large percentage of bites occur when the snake is handled, kept as a pet, or abused. These bites are considered interactive." And about rattlesnakes in general: "Many bites are associated with ethanol use." This does not mean that you won't get bitten by a rattlesnake if you surprise it; although, in my experience, even that is unlikely, since both me an my horse have actually stepped on them without incident (and it was a toss up over who was more scared, me or the snake...the horse didn't give a shit; I have yet to have a horse that even notices snakes). If you surprise it, it is more likely to rattle (i.e. warn you that you have stuck your foot somewhere too close) than it is to bite you. And of the, literally, hundreds of snakes that I have encountered, even Mojave Greens, I have yet to be chased by one. Which is why most rattlesnake bites are suffered by young adult men who are at least a little bit drunk. You don't need a gun to defend yourself against rattlesnakes; if you throw rocks at them or poke them with a long stick they will run away. You don't even need a gun to kill them (if that is your bent...I only kill the ones who set up residence under the water trough or in the hay barn), they can, fairly easily, be killed with a big stick (or they can even be provoked into killing themselves, which is what happened to the last one who was sunning itself in my arena. I threw rocks at it to get it to run away and it reached around and struck at the rock...and bit itself :)). My former experience as an EMT (and from conversations with my former roommate who was an ER nurse) suggests that most of the damage associated with rattlesnake bites (most of which happen to people who were playing with the snake) is caused more by the things that people do when they get bit by a snake than by the snakebite itself (including shooting themselves in the foot with the gun that they carried to shoot any snakes they may come across:)). To quote from Karen's emergency medicine link: "Prehospitalization care: ...No benefit was demonstrated when a negative pressure venom extraction device (eg, The Extractor from Sawyer Products) was evaluated in recent studies. Incision across fang marks is not recommended. Mouth suction is contraindicated. ...Lymphatic constriction bands and pressure immobilization techniques may inhibit the spread of venom, but whether they improve outcome is not clear. These techniques actually may be deleterious for pit viper envenomation if they increase local necrosis. Tourniquets are not recommended. First aid techniques that lack therapeutic value or are potentially more harmful than the snakebite include electric shock, alcohol, stimulants, aspirin, ice application, and various folk and herbal remedies... Although it may be helpful to identify the snake in suspected Mojave rattlesnake bites, attempts to secure or kill the snake are not recommended because of the risk of additional injury." The "scarring, muscle loss, nerve damage and amputation often result" from rattlesnake bites are far more likely to be far more serious if you have cut the wound to try to suck the venom out or if you further compromise circulation by applying a tourniquets (or other constriction bands) to reduce the spread of the venom or by applying ice to reduce the swelling (probably the biggest cause of problems). I keep my horses in a place where I see a rattlesnake at least a couple of times a week (during snake season which is at its height right now), I encounter them on or near the trail pretty much every time I go out for more than a couple of miles (depending on the time of day), and I KNOW that they are out there in my pasture with my horses; and I know that my horses don't even look up from their grazing even when the snake is only a few feet away and rattling. And while this is how my horses are most likely to get bit and suffer serious consequences from it, I don't allow myself to worry about it because it would serve no purpose other than to make me a nervous wreck. I can't keep the snakes out of my pasture and I am unwilling to keep my horses out of my pasture. I do, however, warn people that there are snakes out there (and in there, since one of their favorite hangouts is the hay barn) and to make a lot of noise, and I suggest that they not bring their dog (since dogs are much more likely to a) provoke the snake and b) suffer serious consequences from being bit). The best defense against being seriously injured or killed by a rattlesnake is to understand them and to not do any of the ill-advised things that are frequently recommened. Rattlesnakes are not agressive, they are extremely timid. Understanding their timidity is the best way to avoid getting bit because they only bite (something bigger than dinner) when they are extremely frightened and feel that they have no other avenue of escape. Or if you surprise them so that they don't have any time to think before they react (although it is bites from a startled snake that are the least likely to have any envenomation). They are defensive biters. kat Orange County, Calif. p.s. Oh yeah, and they aren't slow either. They are one of the fastest snakes around. One of the world's favorite snake control devices is the mongoose, but they don't work on rattlesnakes, because rattlesnakes are too fast for a mongoose. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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