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Re: [RC] blue heelers on trail - Deanna German

on 5/21/03 4:40 PM, heidi sowards at ribbitttreefrog@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

I missed a few of the original posts but have a couple of
comments. I ride with my collie and started when he was
about 1 year old. He has a tendancy to crouch and "hide"
when he feels the horses are getting too close. Did this
once while we were cantering up the trail, went right over
him and he did get clipped with a non-shod hoof. I yelled
"WATCH OUT" and from then on, that's all I have to say to
let him know we are coming up on him.

Ah, the power of operant conditioning. This experience left such an
impression on him that he's conditioned to flee when you say WATCH OUT. How
much better would it be to use positive reinforcement to teach the dog a
move out word before they get clipped by the hoof. (Although I have to admit
that I taught my dogs "git" while shooing them away then saying "gooood!"
when they were an appropriate distance -- but they are also conditioned to
know that the word "gooood!" said in a particular tone of voice is a reward.
But that's operant conditioning too. I simply paired the word "gooood!" with
a food reward and now only need to reinforce that sparingly now just to
remind them that "goooood!" = something that gives them pleasure.)


In fact, at home if
he gets in my way, I can say "watch out" and he veers off
out of my way. You have to say the same words in the same
tone, people have ridden with me and they sometimes say
things like, "get out of the way" "move" etc. and he won't
respond. 

I'm amazed by the number of people who think that animals understand
English. They can be taught an unlimited number "command words" but you have
to be consistent and use them the same way and in the same voice tone. You
taught him that WATCH OUT means to take a certain action.

My husband's dog has a vocabulary large enough that I've lost track of how
many words have specific meanings for him since he competes at obedience and
in the field and also plans to do agility. He has 3 different recall words
alone, two of which tell him to arrive back at the handler in a certain
position and one that tells him that another command will follow, so get
ready. He has two words so far for down, also situation dependent. And two
words for Stay. And three words for what to do with whatever is in his
mouth. That's the iceberg tip and this is a dog just embarking on a
competitive career!

The downside to a dog like this is that I have to think about what I'm
saying and my husband and I have to agree what each command means. Thus how
"git" came to be. Can't imagine him ever using "git" in a competitive
situation! 


Knows the difference between my boots and reg. shoes and starts
whining when the riding clothes and boots go on. It's his
favorite thing to do.

We have to sometimes sneak out of the house. My husband's dog knows the
difference between our field training gear and the barn gear. How do we know
that? He'll run to where his training bumpers are if we put on the field
training gear. (He also puts himself in his kennel when I apply hairspray,
knowing that's where I plan to put him when I leave.)

Blue heelers in particular are such smart dogs it shouldn't take much to
train Mary Lynn's to stay out a safe distance from the horses.

Happy training!

Deanna


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