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I am very sorry that you feel this discussion is unproductive. I
think the honest search for the truth, for the future integrity of our
sport is EXTREMELY productive. We, the paying members, have a
responsibility, and the rite to expect things of questionable circumstance to
reach the FULL light of day. Regardless of who is involved. Yes we all get
tired of the BS, "I just wanna go ride my horse" is how most of us feel,
but it is how we get into these messes. Ostriches don't really avoid the fall
out, eventually it will smack you in the face. We ALL need to pay better
attention to what is going on, and speak up when it smells! Annie G.
Annie,
I know some people will get their drawers in a
wad with this -- they usually do. I'm just get so very tired of the
BS. Yes, I know EXACTLY to whom you were referring. It is
especially important for folk in positions of authority in AERC to behave
professionally. Not doing so really hurts the organization. I hate
the thought of that.
I also hate that I feel I have to delete more RC
message than I read because you can tell right off the bat that they'll be
unproductive.
Milinda
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 10:50
AM
Subject: Re: [RC] ROC/NC/Corruption
thread
Exactly my point. The
name calling in place of getting at the truth is unproductive. You will
notice that I did not name anyone. If you think you know who I am refering
to that only supports my point. Lets let all these issues see the light of
day. What is REALLY going on under the covers. And I also would not want to
monitor any list! Annie G.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:56
AM
Subject: Re: [RC] ROC/NC/Corruption
thread
Annie, et al
I know this horse has been beat to death, but
I'm going to smack it again. The personal attacks and juvenile
name-calling has to stop. Yes, I'd like to know people's opinions on
the ROC, etc., etc., but dammit, it's hard to wade though all the
back-of-the-school bus name-calling to get to the "meat" of the
message. Things on this list frequently remind me of political ads
running on TV. I don't want to hit the "mute button" on
Ridecamp. I subscribed to this list to LEARN. If I wanted to
hear juvenile name-calling, I'd go volunteer to be a playground monitor at
the elementary school. THIS DOES NOT RELATE JUST TO THE DISCUSSIONS
OF THE ROC!!!
I've seen people time and again resort to
this behavior whenever a hot-button issue comes up. We're supposed
to be adults here (usually), and it's not setting a good example for the
kids on this list if we start acting younger than they do!
That could have a whole lot to do with what
Steph said. No way would I trade jobs with her -- I don't have the
patience!
Milinda Ellis
Jewett, Texas
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002
9:22 AM
Subject: [RC] ROC/NC/Corruption
thread
Hi Steph, Don't you
think that these are the kinds of things that we need to know about? You
have no idea of the level of corruption, backstabbing, arm twisting and
total lack of integrity that I personally feel is on the rise
in the SW area. It is PATHETIC!!!!!!! It spills
over and affects the entire AERC. If a person disagrees with the
status quo or has any issues at all with absolutely anything, they
are called " liars" - " neurotic" - "insane"-
"stupid"-"uneducated"-" unreasonable" uninformed"-"unworthy" -
"ungrateful"- "insignificant" and far worse, and are the
brunt of some of the worst screaming cussing verbal attacks I have ever
seen in my life, bar none. I am sickened by the gradual lowering of
standard over the past few years at SOME of the SW
rides. And how SOME RM's are allowing us, the paying
members of AERC to be so abused. ( we still do have some of the best
rides in the US) I don't really consider what Karen said as some
kind of empty fly-by accusation. We need to know about these things, and
discuss them. Find out the TRUTH. Otherwise all the bad stays
hidden in the dark, and AERC and all us little "insignificants"
will suffer, and what this sport is supposed to be will be
completely lost. If you allow this thread to run its course,
uncensored, the truth will eventually rise to the surface. And we can
see for ourselves who is, or is not in error. We the paying members of
AERC have every rite to know ALL the facts, ALL the truth, and ALL
the lies. I think we are all to often left in the dark, you know
the mushroom thing. Kept in the dark and fed ........well ya know.
So I ask you to reconsider, and let the thread continue, let
the "stuff" float to the top. Invite everyone involved to state
their case. Sometimes you just have to get down in the mud and the
blood and slug it out! I am convinced that what is rite and true will
win out. Thanks, Annie G.
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