Re: Re: Club foot vs. laminitis, Cushing's dz.

[CMNewell <reshan@deyr.ultranet.com>]

> #2...If you are implying that Nelson
> "caused" the club foot, you are barking up the wrong
> tree.  The mare has always had a mild club foot.

Look, I don't know whether it's the writing style you use or what, but it
isn't easy to pick out what is going on in  your messages.

If the mare has always had a club foot, it wasn't stated as obvious in
your prior message:



> They do appear smaller than when we
> started going there and she has always had two different front feet.


You didn't say she has always had the club foot. That may be what you
*meant*, but "two different front feet" is not the same
as  "always had a mild club foot".

>  

>  And I
> never said anything about shoeing....she has always been barefoot.

Look, I'm not a bloody mindreader. Maybe if you'd *said* she was
barefoot, I'd know that. I don't see how that makes much difference in
what I was saying any road. The salient point was that you said Nelson
had been her farrier for two years. Whether he shoes her or just trims
her, it's still two years, right?


>  The owner
> is the one talking heartbars.  Treating a club foot is far different
> from treating a laminitic one.

No shit. Really?


> #3...Laminitis
> is an inflammation of the laminae while founder is sinking of the coffin
> bone. 

Let's just drop this whole thing now, if you think I don't know the
subtleties of the difference here. 
You seem to think it's ok for you to equate "two different
feet" with "mild club foot", but you feel the need to
correct me about laminitis vs. founder?  And founder is either
sinking or rotation.

And if you want to split hairs,

> As far as testing her blood goes,
> the mare was too dehydrated to get a big enough drop out of her so we
> gave it up for a bad job...


This is hardly proof of dehydration. 


>  We do not
> feel she is currently experiencing any inflammation nor is there evidence
> of separation in the x-rays indicating founder. 

I thought you said the radiographs were too light to read.


>  In light
> of the one past episode with an abscess and the possibility she has
> Cushings, we definitely need to watch her for future bouts of
> laminitis.

Yup.


> #4...For
> whatever reason you feel compelled to make an argument
> here.

You presented some information and asked for comments. I commented. You
didn't like what I said.
Then you started throwing out further tidbits of information on which you
based your assertions, and lambasted me for being wrong on the basis of
information that you failed to provide to me.
Hardly sporting.
But you're right--this is off topic.

        

        

--CMNewell,
DVM