Re: RC: DNA testing update

[Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>]

Well, Tom
I guess you just answered my question about the "myth" of the speed
gene. Do you think some sires have more winners than others for a
combination of their genes and that we cretins just haven't been able to
discover what the magic combo is yet---and then of course have to put in
the correct training for the horse to actualize his potential?
OR (this is NOT a "trick" question)
do you feel that people buy horses with the same bloodlines and tend to
spend more money on these to optimize their potential? In other words,
do you feel genetics comes into play at all?
Bette
Tivers@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/9/00 8:18:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, CMKSAGEHIL writes:
> 
> << By the same science that you quoted about humans in which 40% of athletic
> performance is attributed to genetics--it is my understanding that the same
> is true for horses.  All the quoted research says is that there is sufficient
> genetic overlap among animals that have not "separated" as recently as horse
> breeds that you cannot say with certainty that this *IS* a TB and that *IS*
> an Arab, and be 100% certain.  If you doubt the validity of dealing with
> genetics, I'd refer you straight to the scientists such as the
> Bowlings--since you prefer the literature, better go straight to the horse's
> mouth, so to speak.
> 
>  Heidi >>
> 
> 40% of performance in humans is attributed to qualities present at
> birth--genetically delivered, but not genetically known. Not remotely.
> Hundreds of physiological attributes, controlled by thousands of combinations
> of genes. Since you seem to have the lock on the science of genetics as it
> applies to breeding performance horses, I'm surprised that you were not
> invited to the Long Island symposium on the subject. the scientists there,
> Nobel Prize winners among them, were at a complete loss to suggest any
> scientific genetic basis for breeding superior equine athletes. I'm stunned
> that the informatin you have was not trotted out on the first day. Would have
> saved us all a lot of time.
> 
> So, just out of curiosity, what are the specific genes you think you're
> manipulating in your breeding program? Feel free to cite the Bowlings, or
> anyone else who will validate your claims. Once you've done so, I will report
> back to the symposium participants and the whole problem will be solved,
> saving many millions of dollars in just completing the equine genome alone.
> Why bother when we already have a geneticist who has read the Bowlings and
> has the answer in hand?
> 
> Or, are you bullshitting us again? I don't doubt the validity of the science
> of genetics--just your interpretations and extrapolations therefrom--and the
> stuff you pull out of thin air, which is always entertaining.
> 
> ti
> 
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Bette Lamore
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