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I think people will begin to see why Ivers eventually got such a bad reputation on rec.equestrian. You can't outpiss him; pissing is his specialty. Keep pressing him, and he just gets uglier and uglier. Don't think that just because you're the last one shouting, Tom, that you've "won." Everybody has just shut up in disgust. Linda B. Merims lbm@ici.net Massachusetts, USA
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