RE: Pulling Back

["Snodgrass, Bonnie" <snodgrab@ncr.disa.mil>]

That's the method that I've used for years except that I tie the rope to an
innertube that is fastened to a tall and large diameter post. (I pretty much
always tie with something strechy if possible). The post is ideally either
standing alone with nothing around it at all and on good footing, or it is
up against a very solid wall. Sometimes when a horse pulls back against a
belly rope and feels it tighten, they react by leaping forward fast. Had a
horse go right over a big hitching rail with it's front legs. What a
$#(#$@#$!!!! What a learning experience!!! Since then I found by pure
happenstance that the Tellington-Jones methods of leading and training to
move forward to a pull on the shank and a tap on the butt works wonders. I
teach horses to come forward to spooky things (trailers, tarps, water, etc)
and found that it basicly teaches them to step FORWARD when the halter or
chain tightens on their face, even if something scares them. Voila, they
tie!

Bonnie Snodgrass

-----Original Message-----
From: Teddy Lancaster [mailto:teddy@runningbear.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 9:54 AM
To: Snodgrass, Bonnie
Cc: 'CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com'; cberto@juno.com; ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: RC: Pulling Back


I found a good way to help teach a horse NOT to pull back.  I use a belly
rope...long enough to go around belly, up thru halter and then tie.  When
the
horse pulls back, the pressure is on his body, not head and neck.  You will
be
surprise how quickly they step forward and away from the pressure.

Teddy

"Snodgrass, Bonnie" wrote:

> I've seen horses hurt themselves by pulling back in every imaginable
> situation. Yes, saw one big QTR mare snap her neck at my feet when she
> flipped over backwards when being led by the reins. The best bet is to
teach
> horses not to pull back, to step forward from pressure, not to fight it.
> Easy to teach to most average intelligence horses. Harder IMO to teach to
> "slow" horses who's brains seem to turn off when something scares them.
That
> QTR mare was one of them. My ex-boss wouldn't let me teach her by my
method.
> She believed in the "tie em up with what won't break" method. I saw the
mare
> repeated fight with heavy nylon halters and ropes. Saw her bend a stout 5"
> pipe used as a tie post way over, straining her neck muscles in the
process.
> Then she killed herself a week later with the boss/owner holding the
reins.
> Talk about a real convincing argument for trying a different method! All
my
> horses are taught to tie reliably but safely too.
>
> Bonnie Snodgrass
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com [mailto:CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 2:30 AM
> To: cberto@juno.com; ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: RC: Those new-fangled halters w/no hardware
>
> If you've ever seen a horse set back, break a halter, fall over and
fracture
>
> his poll, and then die, I'm not sure you'd consider breaking a safety
> feature.  Whatever happened to the very basic safety rule of ONLY tying
> horses to objects that are immovable and solid enough not to come apart?
>
> Heidi
>
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