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RE: Legal Drugs

Geez Roger,

Did I say Roger or Trilby or name any other long time riders??? I never 
infered to any one person specifically and I am not apologizing to ANYONE. 
 I was making a statement that is documented in a few of the old endurance 
riding books I read about 15 years ago (no I am not going to research and 
try to remember which ones they were either to appease you Roger), way 
before I got in this sport.  Before AERC regulated the sport and put in all 
the safety factors endurance had a bad rep because of people racing their 
horses to death. You know it and so does everyone else in this sport.  Why 
the heck do you think we now have AERC and vc's?  Because ride managers 
wanted to raise their costs???????!!!!!!! I DON'T THINK SO!  It is still 
going on in foreign countries that aren't regulated by an organized group. 
 I know this because I just got a post from my vet from a vet list she is 
on about a ride in Mongolia that 4 horses died in.  So don't take things so 
personally, unless you are itching for a fight, then take it somewhere 

You know that is why I lay low on Ridecamp anymore, you people are always 
itching for a fight and taking things personally.  Get a clue, life is too 
short, hang up the computer and get out and ride instead of talking about 
it all the time.  Quit talking and start doing, maybe then you'd all be a 
lot less stressed!!!!

                                  Cheryl Newbanks
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-----Original Message-----
From:	Robert Morris []
Sent:	Tuesday, October 27, 1998 6:14 PM
To:; 'Ridecamp'
Subject:	Re: Legal Drugs


You stated <<<<Many horses would  die out there on the trail (and used
> to before our nutrition technology became so advanced) if we couldn't
> these supplements. >>>>

Please document this statement with your supportable statistics or explain
that it is your humble opinion.  My wife and I have been in endurance
competition for over twenty years and so have many others like Barbara
McCrary, Julie Suhr, The Duck,  Joe Long, Trilby, and a host of others. To
infer that we had horses die on the trail because of poor nutrition or lack
of the current supplement fads is an insult to our sport. I can show you
many older competitive, high mileage, still rideable horses who have never
experienced these wonder drugs.

I believe you owe these long time riders an apology.

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

> From: Cheryl Newbanks <>
> To: 'Ridecamp' <>
> Subject: Legal Drugs
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 5:23 PM
> Angie McGhee wrote:
> >Have you seen anyone dragged before the board and suspended for a year
> >because their horse had some dandelion in his system?  I just think this
> >is a slow day and you guys are making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
> >What we've got now is working fine to my knowledge.  We didn't make this
> >rule to stop people from doing things that were good for their
> > worming, electrolytes, etc.
> Yeah Angie!  Way to go girl!  Sometimes I think ridecamp gets too tied up

> in its own underwear!!!!  Probiotics are NOT performance enhancing drugs!

>  Our horses do an extraordinary sport and extra measures need to be taken

> like probiotics and electrolytes to put back what we demand they take out

> of their systems.  Many horses would  die out there on the trail (and
> to before our nutrition technology became so advanced) if we couldn't
> these supplements. It is not like we let them stop to eat or find the
> minerals they need on the side of the trail while the pack races by!  If
> you choose to not give these supplements to your horse fine, but don't
> me they are performance enhancing drugs, heck they are basically survival

> enhancing.  And for those who think electrolytes and probiotics are an
> unfair advantage I guess I'll see your horse at vc on the end of an iv
> bottle someday!
>                                   Cheryl Newbanks
> ~~~           ~~ ^ ^        SW Region
> ~~~\      _ ~~/ /\ /        Buckeye, AZ
>        (   ) __    ) ' '
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