ridecamp@endurance.net: Re: ROC

Re: ROC

RUN4BEAR@aol.com
Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:09:34 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-09 07:13:10 EDT, you write:

<< Teddy,
Thanks and well put. As one who was present (and busily crewing)
I'll agree with both your positive and negative comments (and I'm sure all
of us there could add a few favorites in each catagory). Thanks for saying
it for us. I'll also admit that when I read your post I too thought your
"can of worms" was going to get you "flamed", but so far it seems quiet.
Could that mean there were the greater majority in agreement?!? (And too
chicken to open our mouths in public, like me?)

Jan
>>
I sure would not mind starting up a discussion on all aspects of ride
management and rules that are "assumed" and taken fro granted in some places
and not in others.

I, for one, feel that vets have NO say in ride manegement. I have seen vets
dictate all kinds of things that they should have no say in...including the
cut-off times for vet checks and the interpretation of rules.

The ROC had a ride steward..did anyone complain to them? Since I was not a
rider, I did not have Susan's rules so I can't go into detail and must rely
on heresay....for instance, someone told me Susan had in her rules that she,
as ride manager, had the right to chage rules at any time... What is this???
AERC states that rules above and beyond AERC rules MUST be in WRITING prior
to the start of the ride. As a ride steward, it would be my job to see to it
that all AERC rules and those in writing by ride management were adhered to.
I am not so sure that this was done. Forinstance, three riders missed a part
of the trail. It took somebody 30 minutes to determine what happened while
the riders waited at the vet check. Susan, trying to be fair, told them she
would give them a 15 minute penalty..in DIRECT conflict with AERC rules.
Well, that did NOT happen and the riders had to go back and make up the part
they missed (which IS is agreement with AERC).

Did anyone ever hear Susan say that a horse has only one chance with the vet?
Or, as I see at most rides, the rider has the entire hold time to present
(or represnt) and attampt to pass it? I did NOT see the AM trot out Sunday,
but 9 horses were pulled as a result. Were the problems that obvious or
would some of the horses warmed out of a stiffness that appeared from an
overnight rest? Or, were too many riders/crews, too tired to work on thier
horses the night before? Or, were that many horses truely that lame?

Food for thought, people. What do YOU think? Several riders were VERY upset
and rightly so. Some (direct quote) said: "I was told this ride was
political, I won't be back". Is this what we want to hear and see at these
rides???

Teddy

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