Ridecamp: RE: [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders

steph:

I think it very important that the philosophy behind such a
change be made evident prior to any decision. It would seem
a bit strange to see the listing of the winner finishing
eight minutes behind the third place horse. In fact not only
strange but quite questionable.

Let us take a close look at the current rules:

L5.3  Riding time is the time used by competitors to
complete the course
and reach criteria, excluding all hold times. This is the
time used for AERC ride results.

L5.4  At the finish ride time of the competitor continues
until a preset
veterinary criteria of 60 heartbeats per minute or less is
met.
Finishing time is recorded as the time at which the rider
asks for and subsequently
meets this preset criteria). There is no marked  finish
line  on  the  course  that
is  used  to  determine placing or completion time.

L7.  If placements are given, they must be determined using
the procedure described in 5.3 and 5.4.
The ride results will be posted in this order, but no points
for placement or for completion will be awarded.

L8.  The AERC shall record Best Condition points and Mileage
for members in Limited Distance rides.
All Best Condition points and all miles remain in the
Limited Distance Program and are not transferable.

Now, in reading the above you will see that a rider has not
completed the ride until the pulse has met criteria. This
distinction was purposely made as a deterrent to racing in
at the finish. So time for finish for BC is determined by
when the ride is completed, the time pulse recovery is
noted.

Now you would change it to a point where the first horse to
recover to criteria, and thus winning the competition, could
be ranked third or so on the time factor for BC! This is
contrary to all concepts of Limited Distance Competition.
Losing points in LD BC because you were a bit cautious at
the finish and won the ride but lost BC to some one who was
incautious? No, this is not rational thinking.

Bob

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:44 PM
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Subject: [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders


I have a question for you guys:

One of the AERC directors is proposing a Rules change to LD,
where the LD
rider's finish time would be determined by when they cross
the finish line,
rather than when the horse's pulse reaches criteria. In this
proposal the
placement (first, second, third, etc) of each competitor
would then be
determined separately by when their horse's pulse reaches
criteria.

So your ride time would be determined by when you cross the
finish line.
This is the time that would be published in AERC results,
PNER results, etc,
and this is the time that would be used to calculate BC
scores.

But placement is entirely different - it is determined by
when the horse
reached criteria.

I would love to hear some opinions on this -

Steph



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