Ridecamp: Re: [RC] I am amazed, too

Am I the only one whose glad they don't live in Oregon because of these
posts?  I would like to live there and be near amber though, she's a cool
chick in my book.

C.
----- Original Message -----
From: <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] I am amazed, too


> > Sharon Westergard goripper@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Yes, let's ask Tribbys and Sarah.  And also ask Steph Teeter
> > how we ended up with the Sunriver ride.  Heidi, you opened the door!
>
> I settled for the fact that I got a private apology from Steph after the
> fact.  Too bad others can't get on with their lives as well.  I hope that
> Steph will forgive me for quoting a part of her private post here, but she
> apologized that as an "overzealous and brand-new director" she had
> "listened to the screamers" regarding the situation with the Sunriver
> ride.  I appreciate her honesty and candor, and it has gone a long way
> toward helping me get rid of some of my own anger about the backstabbing
> that went on at that time.  I do know that at the AERC convention that
> year, you talked to Dennis Tribby regarding Sunriver and then went to
> Steph and reported something completely opposite to what Dennis told you.
> At the time, I was pretty angry with Steph for not checking her sources a
> little better, but in retrospect, her apology is sufficient for me.  Move
> forward, Sharon--the rest of us are trying to.  Including Steph, methinks.
> > BTW, we've lost rides in Oregon this year not because of the Forest
> > Service being hard to work with....we lost them this year because we're
> > burning up!!!
>
> As I pointed out, twice we went through the fire problem and still held
> Paulina--granted, your fires were worse this year, although in both of our
> cases, we had actual parts of our trail burned and had to accommodate
> active fire-fighting efforts in our traffic control strategies--but it is
> my understanding (per a guest post to this forum from Linda Tribby) that
> AERC would have allowed a substitute ride for Headwaters, but that it was
> the USFS that would not allow the use of an existing trail elsewhere on
> short notice.  I don't see anywhere that Santiam even attempted to find a
> substitute trail (maybe they did and just didn't make their efforts
> public, I don't know)--and I'd imagine they would have come up with the
> same problem.  I know Linda and Sarah tried hard to help the Oregon riders
> out, and I'm not surprised that the USFS in central Oregon was the only
> obstacle they could not surmount.
> I just got off the phone with Linda Tribby--I understand they are still
> battling to save the Bandit Springs campsite.  And no, Sharon, if that
> ride is lost, it doesn't have a thing to do with fire--just more USFS
> arbitrary rulings and interpretations of the regs without regard to the
> public that actually owns and uses the land.  I sure hope you don't throw
> the same rotten eggs at the Tribbys for their valiant efforts that you
> have thrown at me.  Dennis, bless his heart, did almost all of the legal
> research for my own efforts, and stood behind me the entire time, and I
> wish the Tribbys the best of luck in their efforts to continue the fight
> to preserve endurance riders' access to public lands in central Oregon.  I
> was pleased to hear from Linda how many folks are beginning to get the
> picture and are getting behind THEIR efforts now to save Bandit Springs
> with public meetings and support.  And I hope everyone in the NW will
> contact Linda to see how they can lend support.  She can be reached at
> ltribby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> I was gratified by the number of folks who contacted me after the fact and
> were sorry that they could not have done something to help in our own
> efforts three years ago.  A few sniping posts on Internet lists from a few
> detractors notwithstanding, most of the people in this sport are truly
> caring people, and in this case, a great many were supportive of our
> efforts.  To all of those who may be lurking, I offer you my gratitude and
> a belated Thank You.  Steph has urged me to get over my bitterness about
> this and become a ride manager again--and I hope those of you who
> supported us in Oregon will make the trek to Idaho and ride, should we do
> so.
> And like so many others, I am amazed that a few folks continue to insist
> on dredging up old grudges, when we have so many other more current topics
> to discuss on this forum.
> Heidi
>
>
>
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