Ah, but you see, John, if you were to do that it would take away the very notion that the LD is an event, separate from the 50 and 100, with its own set of rules. By giving them all day long to finish 25 miles you're more or less saying, "This ride is only for walking, so don't worry, you have all day to finish. Normal endurance rides don't apply to the LD." Then, the BC and other awards for 25 miles would seem kind of silly. I think most LDers would want the time to remain as it is. They like the idea that they really are competing. The only rider I know who needs more time in the LD is Lisa Salas when she's at the Leatherwood ride. I think it took Lisa 10 hours to complete those 25 mountain miles. It wasn't because her horse wasn't in shape; Lisa, who has lived in Florida most of her life, seems to have a fear of heights. I was there, when she came in, and I remember saying to her, "Well, no need to bother with the vet check, right, Lisa?" For fear of being banned again on ridecamp, I won't tell ya'll what her response to me was. Let's just say it was appropriate. haha. cya, Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: John A. Teeter Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:52 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] LD 6 hours I was also thinking on this, that the MAX time shouldn't really be a big
issue in the LD events.
That is, max time is more related to RM and Vet convience because they have
to be there till the competition is over (i.e. the max time).
The participants in LD shouldn't have to worry much about being overtime,
its a shorter distance and they need to be able to go at whatever pace is
correct for them.
Why do we have a cut-off time for LD?
LD's are only held in conjunction with endurance distances (where the max
time is at least 12 hours). Why not make the max time in LD 12 hours
(inclusive of the 30 min pulse criteria:)
It's no burden on the RMs the Vets or the Horses is it??
johnt
-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Michael Maul
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 9:42 AM
To: ridecamp
Cc: mmsprice@xxxxxxx
Subject: [RC] LD 6 hours
In response to:
The purpose of the rule in LD
including the recovery time in the ride time is to discourage
overriding.
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The only time this 30 minutes over the total 6 hours comes into play is
for those horses arriving at the finish line between 5:30 and 6 hours.
For all others - especially those in the top ten - the clarification -
whether it's 6 or 6:30 has no effect at all. Meeting criteria to finish
is still the same and discourages over-riding.
I can't say that I believe the riders who have been going at a 5:30 pace
are likely to be over-riding their horses.
While I haven't made up my mind on this - I'm waiting for the discussion
at the meeting - I think it's important to note that under the rule -
placings would not change at all. You still finish when you meet
criteria - not when you cross the finish line.
The only thing this rule clarification does is allow the very slowest
riders a chance to get a completion and close to last place rather than
OT.
Mike Maul
AERC Director-at-Large
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