Re: Entry Fees

[Lynne Glazer <lynne@glazer.org>]

Barbara,

I don't itemize the fees for the rider, it's just part of the entry 
fee and they don't "see" it.  I thought it was a good idea to let 
them "see" it here on ridecamp.

Where did you ever get the idea that I think we ought to keep records 
for non-members?  Please read my post again.

What I *am* advocating, is that we use some of that money to educate 
people new to the sport that haven't joined yet, and that the website 
is doing some of that (which is great.)  I would like to see a 
breakdown of what the non-member fees are used for, or are they 
simply dumped into general revenue?

Lynne



>Lynn, at our rides, I charge for the mandatory $3 state drug testing fee
>only.  I do not charge riders extra for the rider fee to AERC.  We just
>assume that fee ourselves, and we feel that our entry fees are reasonable,
>based on the quality of the ride and its amenities.  I believe some rides do
>charge the rider fee extra, however.  As for non-member fees, the board
>feels that it is unfair for non-member riders to receive the same privileges
>regarding records kept for them as for those riders who support the AERC
>with their membership dues.  Some organizations REQUIRE membership before
>anyone can participate in their events.  AERC does not do that, but it does
>expect some compensation for its record-keeping efforts from those who
>choose not to become members.
>
>Barbara
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lynne Glazer" <lynne@glazer.org>
>To: "Randy H Eiland" <renegade12@juno.com>; <ridecamp@endurance.net>
>Cc: <pchaynes@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:58 PM
>Subject: RC: Entry Fees
>
>
>>  Randy,
>>
>>  $3 per rider drug test fees in California.  So our riders pay $4 + $3
>>  = $7 in fees.   Add to that the $10 in non-member fees that 38 of my
>>  2001 riders paid-- $16 in fees for last year's ride.   Any other RMs
>>  had that many non-members do their ride?
>>
>>  I'd like to see some breakdown of what the non-member fees are used
>>  for.  Sure hope that it's somehow used for educating people who want
>>  to learn more about the sport--for which the website partially
>>  serves.  I'd like to make sure that the website's official rules keep
>>  up with the paper ones, and maybe that's a source of funds for
>>  getting it done.
>>
>>  Lynne
>>  Norco Riverdance Ride (PS) 8/31/02
>>
>>  >Actually, in all states except California, the total starting rider fees
>>  >to AERC are $5.00...the breakdown is $4.00 recording fee (this includes
>>  >the $1.00 increase per starting rider approved by the BOD in 2000) and
>>  >$1.00 Drug Fee.  California has stated mandated drug testing and CA
>>  >charges the event a fee per starting rider (I think).  If any other state
>>  >charges a mandatory Drug Fee, then endurance rides in those states would
>>  >not be charged the AERC Drug Testing Fee.  The Trails Fee is to be
>>  >reconsidered at the Annual BOD Meeting in Reno (March)..
>>  >IF it were approved at this meeting, then Starting Rider Fees paid to
>>  >AERC in 2003 would be a total of $6.00 per starter with the breakdown as
>>  >follows:  $4.00 to AERC, $1.00 for Drug Testing, $1.00 for Trails
>>  >Committee.
>>  >
>>  >in response to:
>>  >
>>  >What is the status of the $1.00 added for trails at the mid year meeting?
>>  >That would make fees $5.00.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >----- Original Message -----
>>  >From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@cruzio.com>
>>  >To: "Dot Wiggins" <dotwgns@ruralnetwork.net>
>>  >Cc: "Ride Managers" <ridemanagers@aerc.org>
>>  >Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:58 AM
>>  >Subject: Re: ride entry fees?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >>  Ride sanctioning and re-sanctioning fees are both $25 for the first
>>  >mileage,
>>  >>  $10 for each additional mileage on the same day.  Example: A one-day
>>  >100
>>  >>  would be $25, a 75 and 100 would be $35, a 100-75-50 would be $45,
>etc.
>>  >>  AERC rider fees are now $4 per starting rider.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Barbara McCrary
>>  >>  West region director
>>  >>  Chair-Rules Committee
>>  >>
>>  >>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > >>  From: "Dot Wiggins" <dotwgns@ruralnetwork.net>
>>  >>  To: "PNER LIST" <PNER@onelist.com>
>>  >>  Cc: "ride camp" <ridecamp@endurance.net>; "Ride Managers Share"
>>  >>  <RideManagersShare@onelist.com>
>>  >>  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:21 PM
>>  >>  Subject: RC: ride entry fees?
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  > What is happening with prices this year??  Hold the same as last
>>  >year,
>>  >or
>>  >>  > make some changes for added AERC fees?
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > Just wondering as I make up new flyers what others are doing.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > Thanks for input.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > Dot
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
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