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    [RC] rogers recommendations: - dpwg


    Unlike Rhonda (whom I  know) I have ridden a few miles in
    50s and LD both. I would not consider myself a national
    traveler(competitor)
    but have gone to various rides within our region as well as a few
    outside of it. I tend to ride at the back of the pack. This year my goal
    is to get that "bottom" on my horse (LSD) as I am starting a new one.
    I have experienced CTR's as well as AERC. In the CTR rides that we 
    have here in Kansas we use the CRI at the end of the ride as a tie
    breaker.
    This gives me an idea of how well my horse is doing at the end of a ride.
    Here are my experiences with Central region and the vets.(of AERC)
    1. CRI is performed at all vet checks including the end for completion.
           This includes trot out 125ft and back with pulse taken before.
            Mucus mebranes , cap refil, jug refill,and gut sounds are taken
    during the remainer
            of the minute for CRI. Pulse is taken again.  64/48 excellent    
       64/64 OK     64/68 hold       etc
            During the trot, the vet can determine lameness, impulsion,
    attitude(how tired or grouchy)
         Lameness check is performed later for BC (Circles)as well as hands
    on.
          Comment: this does not seem to interfer with the flow of these
    rides. Why wouldn't a rider
           want to know  what his horse's fitness is at this time.
    2. Trot outs: What are they for? Lameness 1st (in my opionion) tired 2nd.
    How can a vet tell
         if a horse is off at a walk? If we thought they could tell we would
    simply do all checks at a 
          walk. My goal is to show the vet my horse. I want him to see that
    trot to make sure that
           the horse is OK and has no lameness issues. If he is soo tired
    that he won't except my
           ques I know that I have to work on conditioning. If I have not
    taught him the que then that
           will be more apparent at both the pre ride check as well as any
    further checks.(and I should
          go home and work that out another day. )
    3. We tend to have humidity and hills here in Central. We find that a
    pulse criteria of 60
         keeps those horses off the IV's . Every region is going to be
    different and you can't exactly set a standard.
    4. Completion time max is 1 hr but many people present right after
    finishing if they have done
         their homework and the horse is O.K to do so. Horses are presented
    for BC 1 hour after completion.
    5. Leave this one alone. Depends on the amount of loops. (which we tend
    to have more of)
          Access to trails by road and other factors (such as amount of vets)
    
    On a further note: After completing a 6 mph CTR that we went way to fast
    on, my geldings
    CRI pulse was 56/72. He drank really well during the ride but it was hot
    and humid. 
    I had not progressed(in training) to sponging him off from the saddle so
    I am thinking heat did not help.
    At the end he trotted but was very tired.
    IN YOUR OPINION: Would you have deemed him fit to continue? (I know one
    AERC vet that
    would have pulled him for that kind of CRI pulse)
    
    Pat and Casper in Kansas
    
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