Re: RC: RE: RE: Letter French Federation to FEI

["Hickory Ridge Arabians" <hikryrdg@evansville.net>]

As I see it, this will be wonderful coverage for the sport of
Enduraqnce Riding. One central vet check, loaded with media.
For those who have over paced their horses it should be quite a
site for the world to see.  Horses with needles, jugs, fluids
and maybe even the slow declining death of a horse.  Sometimes
you just have to wonder what is in the minds of the FEI officials.
When it comes to media coverage, I would think this is something
one would avoid.  Let the media cover the ride after the event
is finished. High profile rides, are by their nature, high risk.
Media coverage at the wrong time could set this sport back for
years.
Jerry

Jerry & Diane Fruth
Hickory Ridge Arabians
Home of JABASK KNIGHT
http://www.evansville.net/~hikryrdg/

On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Leonard Liesens wrote...

>Hi,
>I spoke with Pierre Cazes, who is in fact the initiator of this 
letter to
>the FEI.
>
>According to what I understood, the chefs d'equipe want to make sure 
that
>the drawing of the circuit is not made only for the purpose of media
>coverage and includes difficulties in order to call a better 
technicity f=
>rom
>the riders and horses. They want also that the placing of vet stops 
are w=
>ell
>designed, taking into account the type of trail between two stops... 
long=
>er
>distance in case of fast speed, shorter for slower speed... the 
concept i=
>s
>the presumed speed of the first riders, not the distance.
>
> I don't understand the last paragraph of your comments. Why a vet 
2miles
>before finish ? To make sure that horse crossing the finish line are 
fit?
>
>It seems that, according Cazes, there will be 2 types of endurance : 
the =
>one
>we like (like Tevis, Florac, Barcelona, PanAM) and the one of the
>Championship, adapted for media coverage. This last one would be 
organise=
>d
>as a shamrock, with a central vet area, with press coverage. 
Distance sho=
>uld
>be of +- 9 hours or +-100 miles for  fast races and +-80miles for 
slow
>races.
>
>Leonard, Belgium
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Morris [mailto:bobmorris@rmci.net]
>Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:47 PM
>To: guest@endurance.net; ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: RC: RE: Letter French Federation to FEI
>
>
>This is a very interesting thing to note:
>
><<<1. to officially designate a circuit manager for each
>championship. He/She
>will has as duties to design the circuit, to define the
>length of the
>stage in function of constraints defined by the Commission.
>The concept
>behind this is that constraints come from ride time and not
>distance
>between the vet gates. We have to come back to distances
>ranging from 30
>to 40-kms, or 2 hours for the fastest.>>>
>
>First is the fact of designing the circuit, or trail as we
>would call it. Very few endurance rides that we have to do
>that unless they mean the selection of what trail to take.
>The next thing is the length of the stages or distance
>between vet stops. They are calling for distances of 19 to
>25 miles between vet stops.
>
>This puzzles me as the FEI requires a vet stop with in the
>first 6 to 10 miles. Then there must be one not less than 2
>miles before the finish. Then most of the competitions I
>have heard of have vet checks quite often. Wonder what is
>actually happening?
>
>Bob Morris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: guest@endurance.net [mailto:guest@endurance.net]
>Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 7:55 AM
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: RC: Letter French Federation to FEI
>
>
>Pierre Cazes pr_cazes@yahoo.fr
>Hello,
>I think american riders can be interested to know about
>evolution of
>endurance with FEI.
>Here is a translated letter send by FFE (Federation
>Francaise
>d'Equitation)to the FEI.
>
>Pierre Cazes
>France - Chef d'Equipe
>
>Votre Altesse Royale,
>I would like to draw your attention on my concerns about
>endurance. It
>seems that the French Federation is not the only one in this
>case since
>the Chefs d'Equipes of 15 countries intended to meet in 2002
>in order to
>prepare a proposal.My concerns are :
>- the circuits of Championships
>- the right and fair veterinarian controls.
>
>I propose :
>1. to officially designate a circuit manager for each
>championship. He/She
>will has as duties to design the circuit, to define the
>length of the
>stage in function of constraints defined by the Commission.
>The concept
>behind this is that constraints come from ride time and not
>distance
>between the vet gates. We have to come back to distances
>ranging from 30
>to 40-kms, or 2 hours for the fastest.
>2. concerning heart rates, each horse has to be presented
>with a HRM in
>order to permit the jury to check the heart rate and avoid
>any frauds.
>This will also help the vets who will not be alone to face a
>conscience
>case, this without touching their prerogatives. A dozen of
>HRM's devices
>could be sufficient and can be delivered to Organising
>Committee for a
>fair price.
>3. concerning the trotting, we propose to keep the existing
>system (the
>decision of 3 vets forwarded to an official), with one
>change :The
>president of the jury is assisted by a vet and can, in
>questionable case,
>ask another voting from 3 other vets. This vet would be a
>referee like in
>tennis who would insure the same level of judgement among
>competitions.
>To resume :
>One referee (a vet) and one circuit manager...
>- designated this year by the Chefs d'Equipe and only for
>the
>championships
>- for the following years, several procedures could be
>defined (for
>example, the federations could choice on a list of 3..4
>names). As you
>have understood, the objective is to make a clear separation
>between
>technical aspects and sport policy.
>Technical aspects must be entrusted to proven technicians
>and, if
>possible, must adapt to constraints drawn by the Commission.
>The
>Commission keeps it's mission of sport policy.I am convinced
>that those
>minor amendments, nevertheless essential in the substance,
>will avoid any
>stir in this nice discipline.
>Je vous prie de croire, Votre Altesse Royale, =E0 l'expression
>de ma tr=E8s
>respectueuse consid=E9ration
>Jacqueline REVERDY
>Pr=E9sidente
>
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