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Re: RC: RE: Australian System

I'd love to hear what the Aussie's don't like about there system. 
More of you Aussie's out there that care to comment?  

I would also love to see some stats on treatments at endurance events
across the world.  I don't know if we have a problem with our current
system or not.  I sure see a lot of horses treated though... is this
happening else where?  If not, why not?  How do we find out?

As Pat Farmer reiterated, we have been asked to think about our
current system by MMS... why is he asking us to think about it?  The
world around us is changing, we may need to consider changing with


Jennifer Layman

--- Bob Morris <> wrote:
> This discussion is good but one thing is lacking. No, two things
> are
> lacking. The first is, you have heard only the good things about
> the Aussie
> system,. They do also have some problems in making it work and not
> all
> riders are that satisfied. The second thing is, what is wrong with
> our
> current system? The AERC Rules and Regulations quite well cover all
> general
> happenings at an endurance ride as well as most of the
> administrative needs.
> I will admit that our current system of rules has one weak point
> and that is
> in enforcement. But, that weakness is not in the Rules and
> Regulations, it
> is in the riders and Ride Managers who decline to enforce them.
> Yes, there
> are times you have to be an SOB  but in the end every one benefits.
> Bob Morris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: []
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:20 AM
> To:;
> Cc:
> Subject: RC: Australian System
> I was glad to see Angie reply to this post, and to read the earlier
> post
> from
> Jennifer Layman.   These discussions are not as "juicy" as
> rehashing some
> one
> elses' poor riding, bad manners, deceptions, or general bufoonery;
> but we've
> just got to get this dialog going.
> It's going to be a major hassle to make any changes into the way we
> structure
> our sport, with lots of pushing and pulling and yakking, but I'm
> increasingly
> convinced it's necessary.   I'm not someone who favors more rules
> or more
> rigidity, but I think we've just got to look at the suggestions
> made my Dr.
> Mackey-Smith, and at the systems in place in Australia and parts of
> Europe.
>   As endurance riding becomes more and more popular, we have to
> build in
> more
> protections for the horse.   These enforced systems can also serve
> to
> protect
> an enthusiastic beginning rider from the nightmare of learning the
> hard way
> the anguish of damaging their horse.
> I didn't do the conversions that Angie worked through, and to tell
> the truth
> I don't think the details of the logistics are too important, but
> what IS
> important is that we start talking about how to evaluate and
> consider the
> best parts of models which are successful in other areas, and how
> and what
> might work.
> pat farmer
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