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Re: Bill and Smokey

Bill Proctor has been posting incredible workouts and ride reports  Ride
reports which corresponded to AERC ride dates in Central Region.  First
place at three consecutive 50 mile rides, and BC at two of them.  dates
March 10th, April 7th, and April 21st. (I believe) He is not listed in the
AERC database as having started or completed and 50s (or 100s) in 2001 (or

After an extremely dramatic May 5th ride report, including saving a horses
life on trail, giving his own horse to the other rider, getting his horse
back in time to stay in front of the pack, and his horse falling and
injuring Bill, including broken ribs and a broken arm, he still rides in and
wins his first 100.  Yes, I was laughing because I figured it wasn't true.

I PRIVATELY sent ti an incredibly rude post. ("LAUGHING MY ASS OFF")  I have
since apologized.  Bill graciously accepted my apology.  ti threw it in my
face, adding that I was a "cowardly, backbiting moron", saying my agenda was
"personal, manipulative and filthy".  (among other things)

In that first private post, I said that I thought ti should verify Bill's
ride reports thru an official source as I thought his results were
'fanciful'.  My concern for verifiable results were meet with extremely
hostility, and three days later, I was FINALLY told that the rides were not
AERC rides.  I don't know why this wasn't stated up front.  It would have
saved a lot of confusion.

BILL has been *extremely* gracious to me thru all of this.  The matter was
ENDED as far as I was concerned, I have *not* been in contact with Kathy
Mayeda regarding this.

Becky Huffman, Cleburne, Texas
Huffman's Arabians ~ The Original Series ~

"There are always alternatives." - Spock

----- Original Message -----
From: <>Subject: RC: Bill and Smokey

> In a message dated 5/11/01 5:02:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> writes:
> << That's precisely why I asked the question.  Maybe some fellow
>  know of this group and could elaborate more on who his competition is and
>  what "rules" he is competing under, and what vetting parameters they are
>  competing
>  with.  So far people have been e-mailing me privately with more curiosity
>  about it
>  than real answers.  We all want to know the TRUTH and are yet to be
>  satisfied that we are getting it.
>  Yes, the world does not revolve around AERC, but people who compete in
>  endurance would go to AERC as the source of information about endurance
>  competition in the U.S.A.  If there is another source I would like to
>  about it.
>  K. >>
> Actually, what has happened is that several people have accused him of
> lying--behind his back, as is traditional with Ridecampers. Recently he
> broke his arm, and ruined a replaced knee so that now it has to be
> again--and dear Becky Huffman wote me a note that began "laughing my ass
> off".
> I hope you're all having a wonderful time gossiping and backbiting at his
> expense. I think it's filthy myself. If you'd all pay attention to your
> business instead of everybody else's you'd have fitter, sounder horses.
> Bill provided a lot of valuable data to my list members. he is a hard
> working, honest man who has been doing a superior job of conditioning.
> who missed the point are the kind of losers every winner needs.
> ti
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