Re: Re: "Essential" Oils

["Duncan Fletcher" <dfletche@gte.net>]

There are reports of heinz body anemia in horses from wild onions. But I
have seen no data as to the amount necessary cause the problem. See Thorp,
F., Harshfield, G. S. 1939. Onion poisoning in horses. J. Am. Vet. Med.
Assoc., 94: 52-53. I haven't read this - not in my library :).

My understanding is that cats are particularly sensitive. The problem has
developed in cats fed baby food containing garlic. Check the 1998 issues of
JAVMA.


Duncan Fletcher
dfletche@gte.net



----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Garlinghouse" <suendavid@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Carolyn Burgess" <carolyn_burgess@hotmail.com>; <dnbginn@pdq.net>;
<ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:57 PM
Subject: RC: Re: "Essential" Oils


> Whether this will occur in horses, I don't know, as it hasn't been tried
> under experimental conditions---however, it's worth at least mentioning
that
> cattle, cats and dogs can all get anemia from eating anything in the onion
> family, including garlic, whether raw, cooked or dehydrated.  The toxicity
> comes from the n-propyl disulfide, which is toxic to erythrocytes (red
blood
> cells).  5-10 g of fresh onions per kg of body weight was enough to
produce
> significant anemia in dogs, and 30g/kg for only three days produced bloody
> urine, severe anemia and death.  Allowing for water content and so on, the
> equivalent dose of 5-10g/kg in a horse would be about 8 ounces of onion or
> garlic powder a day.  Cattle are reported to be more sensitive to it than
> dogs and cats, and horses are alot closer in physiology to a cow than they
> are dogs and cats.
>
> I realize no one has suggested feeding a half pound of garlic powder on a
> daily basis, but this might be something to keep in mind before you
started
> adding very much.
>
> Susan G
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carolyn Burgess <carolyn_burgess@hotmail.com>
> To: <dnbginn@pdq.net>; <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:25 AM
> Subject: RC: "Essential" Oils
>
>
> > Is he eating that garlic??? I think that stuff is raw!  We'll if he eats
> it,
> > good for him.  I use about 2 tablespoons twice a day.  If your using the
> > fresh garlic, he will definetly stink for sure.  About the hair that
won't
> > shed out.  Why don't you clip it and be done with it?  As long as you
trim
> > to the lenght of the summer hair coming in, you should be fine.  And
then
> > when it finally decides to fall out you won't have affected the summer
> hair.
> > And don't you dare complain about bugs!  It has to be warm to have bugs
> and
> > I'm still knee deep in snow (I live 15 miles west of Boston, MA - the
snow
> > should be gone by now!).
> >
> > Carolyn
> >
> >
> > >From: "Dennis Ginn" <dnbginn@pdq.net>
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> > >Well, my big paint horse is out in the pasture "stewing" as I write.
He
> > >has these long guard hairs (some are  3 inches!) that won't shed out
> until
> > >late April. I try (every year) a combination of clipping and plucking ,
> but
> > >they seem to continue growing until they finally fall out. Drives me
> > >crazy!! This is south Texas, for heaven's sake, he hardly needs hair in
> the
> > >WINTER! All of his other coat has shed, and is very short, so I have
> soaked
> > >him in baby oil....Will let you know if it works.
> > >
> > >I found one of those jars of chopped fresh garlic(the quart size,from
> > >Wal-Mart) in the back of my old refrigerator , rather than waste it(how
> > >something can have so much odor, but so little flavor is beyond me) try
> it
> > >on the horses- the flies and mosquitoes are BAD this year. I started
> them
> > >with about a tablespoon, now they probably get 2-3 ounces per feeding.
Is
> > >that about right, Carolyn? Wasn't sure what size scoop you were
referring
> > >to. <g> Had a mental picture of a 55 gallon drum of garlic powder, you
> with
> > >a feed scoop of garlic.!!
> > >
> > >Nancy
> > >Billy Joe( I look, and smell, like a @#$% PIZZA!!.. BAM!!)
> > >Molly ( glad my hair is all even!!)
> >
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