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Re: Re: Re: CRI



ditto...ditto..ditto...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Sue Brown <sbrown@wamedes.com>
To: <ridecamp@endurance.net>; <Tivers@aol.com>; <bass@bigsky.net>;
<CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com>; <superpat@gateway.net>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 10:12 PM
Subject: RC: Re: Re: CRI


> Pat wrote:
> >
> > Tom, Heidi, Bette,
> > I have to tell you that although I really am interested in this
particular
> > thread and feel that there is much that ti and Heidi have said today
that is
> > great food for thought, it is really a turn off when there is such mean
> > spirited personal attacking intertwined with the debate
>
>
> <snip>
>
> >And no, I do not consider myself to be
> >the moderator or the judge or anything like that. If I care about someone
I
> >feel that I have a responsibility to share with them what I am feeling
> >rather than feeling uncomfortable or resentful and saying nothing.
>
> I'm going to have to go on record as submitting a "me too" post...so, me
too.
> The phrase that continually comes to my mind is the one from
Dragnet....."just
> the facts, ma'am".  I can appreciate a well debated subject and I suck up
that
> kind of info like a sponge...even did some debate stuff in my youth up in
> northern Minnesota so I can appreciate the passion that goes with the
subject
> of your choice and expertise.  However, I was raised in an
ultra-conservative
> midwest home and, even tho I was occasionally a hellion a bit later on, I
> still
> have that background pounded into my head.  You did not fight in public.
It
> was stressed to always debate with intelligence and not emotion, and
always
> with a certain amount of decorum!  I went on to spend the rest of my life
in a
> profession that values tact and diplomacy...so I'm really hopeless. ;-)  I
> don't mind an occasional zinger in good humor...but I start feeling a bit
> awkward when the daggers start flying.  Sorta like the uneasiness you feel
> having to sit and listen to your parents argue.
>
> I get a tremendous amount of education from passionate, intelligent
> people...but my ability to stay focused diminishes when the debate starts
> turning personal.  From my debating days I learned that the winner was
most
> frequently the one who could keep cool and stick to the facts thru out the
> debate.  If you got personal and degrading during the discourse, the focus
> shifted to the behavior and away from the subject content.  I don't want
> anyone
> to stop the discussions because I think this variety of information is
very
> valuable and it's what progress is based on...but let's have "just the
facts"!
>
> Thank you.  (And I don't own a flame suit...but I have asbestos skin from
> dealing with surgeons for 30 years!! ;-))
>
> Sue
>
>
>
> sbrown@wamedes.com
> Tyee Farm
> Marysville, Wa.
>
>
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