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Re: Fw: Re: Tree-hugger



Try living near the ones who load and spray their liquid manure on the
fields... better yet try riding your horse by one.  My horse can't get past
it fast enough for either of us!!  Blech!


Maggie Mieske
Mieske's Silver Lining
10601 S. Richards Rd.
McBain, Michigan 49657
http://www.netonecom.net/~mmieske
mmieske@netonecom.net

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> From: Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>
> To: Lynne Glazer <lynne@glazer.org>
> Cc: CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com; fasterhorses@gilanet.com; ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: RC:       Fw: Re: Tree-hugger
> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 9:34 PM
> 
> You two should drive out to New Cuyama someday and inspect the dairy
> there--- down the road from the ranch we were BRIEFLY at. There is a
> pile of manure towering over the cows' heads in the same small paddock
> they are in; the smell is overwhelming. I'm sure Steve Shaw has been by
> the place--- not a pretty sight. Maybe this is the exception to the
> rule; I wonder......
> Bette
> 
> Lynne Glazer wrote:
> > 
> > At 9:28 AM -0500 3/15/00, CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com wrote:
> > >In a message dated 3/14/00 4:51:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > >fasterhorses@gilanet.com writes:
> > >
> > ><< The only dairies I've been around that I'd agree with you about are
small,
> > >  private ones.  The big commercial ones are disgusting.  Just driving
near
> > >  one on a hot day makes one car sick with the smell - not quite as
bad as
> > >  feed lots but almost. >>
> > >
> > >Lif, your example with the dead calf is indeed a rarity in the dairy
> > >industry.  While the calves are indeed not a particularly "useful"
commodity
> > >in the dairy, getting the calf delivered rapidly and with as little
trauma to
> > >the cow as possible is a MAJOR priority, as lowered milk production is
a
> > >sequelae to a calving problem.  An unhealthy uterus (be it due to
inflamation
> > >or infection following a complicated calving) interferes with both the
> > >hormonal regulation of lactation as well as the general health of the
cow,
> > >both of which are dollars down the drain to the dairyman.  Dairies
that don't
> > >take good care of their cows don't stay in business very long in the
> > >competitive market.
> > >
> > >Heidi
> > >
> > 
> > I'd have to agree with Heidi about care of dairy stock.  I live less
> > than a mile from what was for years the largest concentration of
> > dairy cattle in the US, yep, in SoCal.  Had many friends in the dairy
> > preserve, who have all moved to central Calif where there is more
> > space, pasture even, and no housing tracts.  They took very good care
> > of the cattle, because it was their livelihood.
> > 
> > Fortunately the prevailing wind blows away from my house, but
> > occasionally perceptible is the unique "eau de dairy".   The density
> > of cattle was the problem down here, methane-r-us, and now the two
> > cities that have annexed the preserve are having to clean up the land.
> > 
> > Dead calves are left on the side of the road, for weekly pickup, a
> > service the dairies paid for.  It's not an everyday sight.
> > 
> > I once felt obligated to deliver a calf where I boarded my horses.
> > The mother seemed indifferent to her live calf's plight, half in,
> > half out.  I ran to get rags when the calf proved too slippery to
> > pull out.  By the time I returned, she'd laid down and smothered the
> > poor thing, but stayed down for me to pull him out.  That was work!
> > 
> > Lynne
> > 
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> Bette Lamore
> Whispering Oaks Arabians, Home of TLA Halynov
> http://www.stormnet.com/~woa
> I've learned that life is like a roll of toilet paper, the closer it
> gets to the end, the faster it goes. Smell the roses!
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