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Re: RC: Re: Horse slaughter

Hi Duncan
I agree with what you say to a point. I do not believe I have the right
to judge others (although it is hard for me to refrain from such at
times); however, there IS a BIG difference between an animal whom you
have kept in the field and has been treated dispassionately (cow) and an
animal who has been treated as a friend, fed treats, given some
decision-making power over their lives (after all--- don't they have an
input in trail pace and when enough is enough etc?)...... If we interact
with our horses, they become humanized (although I'm not sure that is a
complement) and they think, form attachments to us, and take on
personalities, or I should say, develop their personalities to a greater
extent than if the only thing they had to think about was where to
If we give them these opportunities to develop themselves and they are
not treated as commodities, do we not owe it to them to not change the
game rules when they no longer serve our needs? Then do we say to
them--- now act like a dumb unthinking animal who is devoid of feelings
for humans and accept your fate of being led like cattle to slaughter.
If we do that to wild horses it would even be a different matter from
doing it to one who has been a member of the family.
Just something to think about.
PS I did let Mark slaughter our dairy cow's son, Norman. I had saved her
2 Black Angus-cross (she was a Jersey---uuummm the cream!)daughters but
the pure Jersey son (we gave up on Big Macs and thought we'd breed
another milk cow---voila---Norman) was a goner. He never sucked up to
me--- would not come up to me and let me pet him. Hence, not a member of
the family; hence, Normanburgers for 2 years. He made his choice. I also
believe savage horses make theirs, too. Just not ol' "paint" who taught
the kids how to ride and took care of them. I would have a big problem
justifying sending that one to the slaughterhouse, but then again, I
cried during Phar Lap. Just me.
Bette Lamore
Whispering Oaks Arabians, Home of TLA Halynov
I've learned that life is like a roll of toilet paper, the closer it
gets to the end, the faster it goes. Smell the roses!

Duncan Fletcher wrote:
> The major point that has been missing from this discussion is that there is
> no reason other than religion or human emotional state that would make a
> distinction between beef and horse meat. While I well understand that
> majority of you would not want your horse to go to slaughter, that is
> entirely within your control. But denying someone else the right to send
> their horse to slaughter while you enjoy a Big Mac is hypocrysy at its
> finest. And sending an animal to the zoo shows the weakness of the vegan
> philosphy. If animals shouldn't be food - they shouldn't be food for other
> animals. But nature kind of gets in the way.
> It is one thing to not eat horse meat - it is another entirely to impose
> your religion on other folks. For those folks that don't have any emotional
> attachment to the horse, the economics of slaughter are not insignificant:
> $500 of income vs $100 or more of expenses. But it is not so much that they
> have to do it because of economics, but that there is no ethical reason not
> to - just as there is no ethical reason not to raise beef cattle. I have not
> sold any horses to slaughter or auction and I haven't eaten horse meat (I
> have had a horse put down and paid the price), but other folks have as much
> right to sell their horse for slaughter as the chicken farmers.
> The California law is difficult to enforce, probably unconstitutional
> because it interferes with interstate commerce. A killer buyer cannot buy a
> horse in California, but a middleman can buy the horse to resell at an
> auction in another state where the most likely outcome is purchase by a
> killer buyer. But, hey, it made a bunch of folks in California feel good.
> And feeling good as opposed to solving problems is important.
> Someone suggested a lot of stolen horses end up at Texas slaughter houses.
> There was an article in Equus (September 1999, I believe - can't locate that
> issue) that discussed stolen horses. Texas has been particularly successful
> in preventing stolen horses from slaughter. Actually, the overwhelming
> number of stolen horses end up sold privately and do not end up in
> slaughter.
> Duncan Fletcher
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