Re: Infrared heat sensor

[nitram@gv.net (Chris Martin)]

Tom:  (with your permission I would like to send this to ridecamp)

What kind of leg or muscle injuries could you pick up with an infrared heat
scanner?  Any chance of picking up a suspensory or ligament pull??????   I
am guessing that it will  if pick up hot spots from a saddle that does not
fit right.  I ride in a treeless saddle so I have no hot spots.  In doing a
leg scan it did pick up on some skinned shins on one horse and a stone
bruise (HOOF) on another horse.  Since all my horses are pretty healthy I am
not finding  anything unusualy on a total body, muscle scan.  What kind of
things might I pick up?

I have had only had the scanner a couple of days so here is what I have been
doing.  I scan the horses hoofs.  The scanner records the highest reading.
I scan each one sepeartly, recording the highest reading. I then do the
lower legs and compare them,  then a whole body scan from about 4 feet away.
The extremities are always several degrees cooler than the muscle mass of
the horse. All this only takes maybe 5 min.  I do this once prior to take
off and once again on landing.  I have been spending a little more time,
maybe 10 min doing the scan after the ride.  

My company is field testing one of these scanners, under $350.00, it has a
buit in laser beam and records 1/10 of a degree incriments.

My wife had a meat bee sting on the back of her leg, I was able to pick up a
4 degree differance from about 3 feet away.


>In a message dated 9/28/99 10:01:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, nitram@gv.net 
>writes:
>
><< Tom:  (with your permission I would like to send this to ridecamp)
>
>You have that permission.
>
> 
>> What kind of leg or muscle injuries could you pick up with an infrared heat
> scanner?>
>
>If you can touch the muscle, and it is torn, the infrared thermograph will 
>see it. Muscles buried deep are problematic. You may get a generalized heat 
>patern from these, but nothing that will give you an accurate diagnosis.
>
>>  Any chance of picking up a suspensory or ligament pull??????>
>
>Perfect application for thermography.
>   I
> >am guessing that it will  if pick up hot spots from a saddle that does not
> fit right.>
>
>Another perfect application--did that yesterday on two horses as a matter of 
>fact.
>
>>  I ride in a treeless saddle so I have no hot spots.  In doing a
> leg scan it did pick up on some skinned shins on one horse and a stone
> bruise (HOOF) on another horse.  Since all my horses are pretty healthy I am
> not finding  anything unusualy on a total body, muscle scan.  What kind of
> things might I pick up?>
>
>Hot spots anywhere along the spinal column. Signs of inflamed muscles from 
>tying up. Muscle tears (usually the semitendinosus (hamstring), traumatic 
>injuries (horse gets kicked).
> 
> >I have had only had the scanner a couple of days so here is what I have been
> doing.  I scan the horses hoofs.  The scanner records the highest reading.
> I scan each one sepeartly, recording the highest reading. I then do the
> lower legs and compare them,  then a whole body scan from about 4 feet away.>
>
>Ok, so this is the hand held digital readout device. What you're looking for, 
>first, is that one knee is the same temp as the other knee symmetry. Then you 
>want to find local hot spots that are 1 1/2 to 2 degrees C higher than the 
>surrounding local tissue. 
>
>> The extremities are always several degrees cooler than the muscle mass of
> the horse. All this only takes maybe 5 min.  I do this once prior to take
> off and once again on landing.  I have been spending a little more time,
> maybe 10 min doing the scan after the ride. >
>
>After the ride you have some artifacts due to extra circulation in the moving 
>parts. You'll get false high readings at the hocks, tendons, feet, etc. Best 
>time for infrared diagnostics is early in the morning, before exercise. 
> 
> >My company is field testing one of these scanners, under $350.00, it has a
> buit in laser beam and records 1/10 of a degree incriments.>
>
>Goo. That's about as sensitive as they come.
> 
> >My wife had a meat bee sting on the back of her leg, I was able to pick up a
> 4 degree differance from about 3 feet away.
> 
> Chris Martin
> Nitram, Inc.
>  >>
>
>At night you should be able to find birds in trees, or rabbits under bushes, 
>with it.
>
>ti
>
>
>
Chris Martin
Nitram, Inc.


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