Re: RC: Need to know about.....

[Teddy Lancaster <Teddy@runningbear.com>]

Lynette:

The heartcheck IS accurate...read my earlier posts. I seriously question a PULSE
-TAKER (not a stethoscope).

My guess, that in time, like when heart rate monitors first came out, people will
get used to using them and find them a valuable tool.  If you feel they are NOT
accurate, check again...they are and there is really NO DOUBT. Like I said, read
yesterday's post.  All depends on the watch being used compared to how a pulse
taker counts.

Tools are only as good as the people who use them....

Teddy

Lynette Helgeson wrote:

> This has been my experience with them too. At least 20 bpm
> higher then
> what a stethoscope shows or what is NORMAL for my horse. This
> has been
> happening for several rides and I am getting tired of fighting
> ride managers
> over it. I even had a ride manager refuse to use a stethoscope
> on my
> horse, even though I had requested one. ANd of course the
> handheld was way
> over and I was doing a competitive ride. A horse, or should I
> say pony, that
> has had great P/R's all summer, goes on one ride and during the
> spot checks
> where the hand held is used his P/R's are way up, even though he
> was walking
> and when I get done with the ride and had worked him harder and
> he was hotter,
> his P/R's are way down because he was P/R by a vet with a
> stethoscope instead
> of the hand held monitor. EXplain that, because it just does not
> wash with me.
>
> Tried it on my husband's horse a little later too, 76 on the
> hand held and 52 by the vets stethoscope. But on my daughter
> horse, it seems to be right on. They seem
> to be good on some horse and not others. I know from experience
> that they are
> always higher then a stethoscope with my pony. And when ride
> managers start to
> think that hand helds are so accurate that they don't need to
> use stethoscopes any more, and using only the hand held is going
> to be the rule, then I am going to stop doing distance rides.
>
> Lynette
>
> DreamWeaver wrote:
> >
> > I don't like them, I've had them register 20 bpm higher than my own
> > monitor, OR a stethoscope.  I'd rather they not be allowed.  They're also
> > subject to interference and besides that, they aren't going to pick up any
> > abnormalities that a good P&R person might detect.  It's really irritating
> > too, when you know you're horse is down but you've got somebody with one of
> > those darn things telling you that your horse is at 80 or some odd number,
> > and if you say anything they think your a jerk and you think they are an
> > idiot <bg>.
> >
> > I've had them put on both of my horses btw, and they've been inaccurate on
> > both of them.  That's my only experience with them.
> >
> > Happy Trails,
> >
> > Karen
> > in NV
> > & Rocky, 1,745
> > & Weaver, 3,005 miles :-)
> >
> > At 08:04 PM 09/06/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Hand Held Heart Rate Monitors.
> > >My opinion of these handy little devices is they are a waste of
> > >money and they have no right being part of a P/R on any ride,
> > >let alone a competitive ride. They have a tendency to read
> > >higher pulses and I have got to wonder if they pick up all of
> > >the other little sounds that you hear when you put a stethoscope
> > >on a horses sides as part of the heart rate. I am not sure about
> > >that, just a guess, but what I am sure about is we had some
> > >instances where the hand held registered a heart rate on a horse
> > >that said 60 where the pulse taken by stethoscope said 40. And
> > >where the hand held registered 76 and the pulse taken by a vet
> > >with a stethoscope said the horses pulse was 52 and the pulse
> > >taken by hand was a 50. I was also told by other people that all
> > >of the BIG rides are going to the hand held heart rate monitors
> > >at their rides.
> > >
> > >So I wanted to know from everyone, first of all what your
> > >experiences have been with the hand held heart rate transmitters
> > >and if the ride managers are all using them now, and if they
> > >are, what they think of them. Also, I would like to know what
> > >the vets think of them. I would really appreciate some input on
> > >this issue, since it is getting to be a common practice at the
> > >rides in this area, and is making me uneasy about the results.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Lynette in ND
> > >
> > >
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