ridecamp@endurance.net: Re: scratches - bad stuff!

Re: scratches - bad stuff!

Katy Rieflin (krieflin@tgi.net)
Mon, 23 Jun 1997 22:54:57 -0700

ridecamp-d-request@endurance.net wrote:
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> ridecamp-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 415
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> Today's Topics:
> Re: Pulling
> 1997 World Cup Update
> topical ointments
> scratches - bad stuff!
> Vet scoring BC
>
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 08:52:27 +0800
> From: Anne Barnes <barnes@numbat.murdoch.edu.au>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Pulling
> Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970624005227.006bbdb4@numbat.murdoch.edu.au>
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> At 04:53 PM 6/23/97 -0500, Tina wrote:
> >what determines whether you are noted as pulling due to Rider Option or as
> >Lameness/Metabolic??
> >
> >Does it just come down to whether the rider says "I pull" before the vet can
> >say "you are pulled"?
>
> In Australia, riders may withdraw from the ride if the horse vets through
> OK. Any horse that is withdrawn, either on course or at ride base, must
> still present for vetting. The horse may be vetted out if it is lame, or has
> metabolic problems, or has excessively elevated heart rate (cut-off rate and
> time of check may depend on the ride. Most of our rides are still vetted as
> 30 minute hold then check, so for example, a horse withdrawn on course and
> trailered back to base will be checked 30 minutes after arriving back at
> base, unless of course it is tied up, colicky etc and requires immediate
> attention).
>
> There is a "black mark" system, for want of a better term, where you get
> marks against you for vet outs, and after a certain number of accumulated
> marks, you get a letter from the state committee notifying you of this fact,
> and basically reminding you to look after your horse - this seems to be a
> reasonable idea in that people who always over-ride to the detriment of
> their horses will be picked up, and can be cautioned or given a rest order.
> The mark system takes into account the different problems that can arise -
> bad luck versus bad management. SO, the reason we have for not allowing a
> horse to withdraw without penalty until they pass the vet check is to stop
> people pulling their horse when they know there is a problem.
>
> If your horse vets through OK at the check, but you are don't feel right, or
> even if the horse feels lame now he's cooled down, you can withdraw without
> penalty if you do it before you go out again.
>
> Is this similar to how it operates over there?
>
> Anne
> Western Australia
>
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> Date: 23 Jun 97 20:47:18 EDT
> From: "R. K. and L.D. Stewart" <76147.1145@CompuServe.COM>
> To: Endurance Digest-post messages <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: 1997 World Cup Update
> Message-ID: <970624004718_76147.1145_HHE58-1@CompuServe.COM>
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> The AHSA Endurance Committee had a meeting June 21st during the Festival of
> Champions.The AHSA Endurance Committee members are: Chair- Jerry Gillespie DVM;
> Members: Maggie Price, Stagg Newman, Valerie Kanavy, Mitch Benson DVM, and Lori
> Stewart.
> After over an hour of discussions regarding the recently (April) approved and
> more recently publicized (late May) FEI/ELDRIC World Cup Series and final in
> Qatar (Nov 1997), a motion that the United States decline participation in this
> year's series and final passed 4 to 1.
> Two key issues that made participation unfeasible were 1) The late application
> for approval of the series to the FEI makes it impossible for the USA to
> sanction and host two open FEI qualifiers and give adequate time for riders to
> plan their work and competition schedules for these events. 2) MANY unanswered
> questions remain about the final that make it impossible to inform in a timely
> manor competitors about the conditions under which they would be competing at
> the final:Exact length of the race and EXACT date. Length of quarantine after
> event (two months minimum and more like three) and where.What will quarantine
> cost and who pays for the quarantine? Who is the president of the Veterinary
> commission and on the staff? Will the veterinarians REALLY have control of the
> welfare of the horses? Is there prize money and how much (there is nothing in
> the literature only rumors). The questions go on and on.
> All agreed the concept of a World Cup series for endurance is a sound one, but
> it should be developed in accordance with FEI regulations that state application
> must be made to the FEI secretariat Oct. 1, two years in advance of the
> competition. That requirement was waived for ELDRIC/Qatar World Cup Series.
> The letter to the FEI from AHSA will basically say we are supportive of a World
> Cup Series and will participate in the future when sufficient notice is given to
> sanction two qualifiers in North America and thus make the series open and
> equitable to all our USA riders, AND complete details of the final are available
> well in advance.
> As a side note: Last week AHSA was notified that the Pan Am could NOT have an
> open qualifier in conjunction with the championship. Only those selected to
> compete may participate. Given this development and the other considerations,
> it was decided that the United States would not participate. The issue was long
> discussed and at times debated but a very sound decision was reached. We should
> all remember that the United States is highly respected around the world and
> when we participate in an event of this caliber, we give it a high level of
> credibility and respectability. Also, please remember that in the United States
> fair and equal access to opportunities is our first and foremost priority. Dane
> Frazier, AERC President, was in attendance at the meeting and was in full
> agreement with the outcome of the vote.
>
> Lori Stewart, Vice Chair AERC International
>
>
>
> E-mail from: R. K. and L.D. Stewart, 23-Jun-1997
>
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> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 21:22:53 -0500 (CDT)
> From: "Glenda R. Snodgrass" <grs@consider.theneteffect.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: topical ointments
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.970623211533.27698F-100000@consider.theneteffect.com>
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> Thanks for the many responses I got on my question about topical
> ointments. For the curious among you, this is a summary:
>
> Most everyone agreed that protecting those fly-bite sores on Lakota's
> belly is best done by smearing something thick, greasy and smelly over
> them, to keep the flies out and let the skin heal underneath. Votes were
> cast for Ichthammol, Swat, plain Vaseline, and Vaseline mixed with
> sulfur. (I started wondering whether axle grease would work, as I remember
> my father treating our dog's mange with axle grease when I was a child.)
>
> Desitin was voted "most likely to prevent problems" and useful on
> scrape-type sores.
>
> Two thumbs-down received on Cut-Heal.
>
> One Ridecamper mentioned an internal parasite that can cause external
> eruptions in a line down the belly. I've never heard of this before, and
> plan to ask my vet about it if the sores don't get better in a few days
> with the smelly&greasy treatment.
>
> Again, thanks for all the answers! This list is a wonderful resource for
> newbies like me.
>
> Glenda & Lakota
> endurance wannabes on the Alabama Gulf Coast
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> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:00:20 -0700
> From: Stephanie Teeter <step@fsr.com>
> To: "'ridecamp@endurance.net'" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: scratches - bad stuff!
> Message-ID: <01BC7FF6.F1150420@step@fsr.com>
>
> Ok, I did the baby oil and vinegar thing... didn't seem to work
> for my horse. By day 5, he had scratches on both back (white) pasterns.
> Didn't affect the black front legs too much. I have him wrapped
> now with a mix of Furazone, DMSO, Dexamethazone and
> betadyne solution. Will leave him wrapped for a day at least.
> He was really sore - one pastern was pink, hot and swollen,
> very tender. I know of one horse that had to pull on day 5 because
> he was so sore.
>
> I'd love to hear your ideas on preventions and cures...
>
> nasty stuff!
>
> Steph Teeter
> http://www.endurance.net
> http://www.horse-shop.com
>
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 00:31:54 -0400 (EDT)
> From: PEGGASIS@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Vet scoring BC
> Message-ID: <970624003153_-59072862@emout03.mail.aol.com>
>
> It's pretty bad when our super sport of endurance has gone the way of all
> judged events. In the show ring, cutting shows, etc. they judge the owners
> reputation and pocket book, rather than the horse, or sometimes the horses
> reputation. Why even be judged for Best Condition when the judges figure for
> the reputation rather than the best horse. How can a BC award be given out
> when none of the sheets had been filled out, except for the vet score. And
> scores scratched out and marked lower? Let's hope this sort of thing dosen't
> happen too often, it hurts alot of people dedicated to the sport.
> Peggie
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> End of ridecamp-d Digest V97 Issue #415
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To steph
I was taking care of a pony that had scratches very bad, swelling, heet,
ect.
I used Novasan Ointment (blue stuff)
and within a few day i saw a vast improvment.
I hope this helps
Katy and Mickey

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