ridecamp@endurance.net: Re: Pulse problems

Re: Pulse problems

Mark Geslicki (markgesl@ix.netcom.com)
Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:45:52 -0700

ridecamp-d-request@endurance.net wrote:
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ridecamp-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 413
>
> Today's Topics:
> #408 & Carson Iceberg Wilderness
> Results Belli Park 80K
> Pulse problems (sorry, this is long)
> ROC Results?
> Re: farrier questions
> Re: Never Pay for Advertising Again.
> Re: Pulse problems (sorry, this is long)
> Stop Over In Kansas
> Re: Pulse problems/ Selenium
> Wanted Sports Saddle
> FW: Horse for Sale
> Re: ridecamp-d Digest V97 #410
> Re: Registration questions
> XP 5-day results
> Re: endurance dogs
> Oakland Hills Thanks
> Dogs, Farriers, etc.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 23:09:15 -0700
> From: SDT <sharon@dolantruax.gardnerville.nv.us>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: #408 & Carson Iceberg Wilderness
> Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970623060915.0068eb80@mail.greatbasin.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> My apologies for sending digest #408 back to ride camp...don't know how that
> happened. Guess that's # 1,092 mistake for this week...hope next week is
> better:-).
>
> The Back Country Horsemen of Nevada, Carson Valley Chapter and High Sierra
> Chapter, along with the Forest Service finished clearing the High Trail. The
> BCH will continue to work on the trails all summer. There were in excess
> of 20 tress down as well as bogs to be drained, water bars to be built but
> it's done in time to open the back country to any of you planning to camp
> and contition out of Wolf Creek July 4 week-end. The River Trail is washed
> out, Wolf Creek Trail is passable but where there were wide, shallow creeks
> crossing the trail, there is now deep, narrow, fast moving streams. The
> road in is open on week-ends and passable. It may be open 7 days a week
> after the 28th of June if they get the work done as scheduled. Cheak with
> the Forest Service out of Carson City. A ride into this country shows you
> what a hit the Sierra's took this winter. Unbelieveable!
>
> Happy Riding
> Sharon
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:08:57 +1000
> From: "Bruce Overton" <boverton@tpgi.com.au>
> To: "endurance" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Cc: "chris pollitt" <c.pollitt@mailbox.uq.edu.au>,
> "Greg D Overton" <gramjo@onthenet.com.au>
> Subject: Results Belli Park 80K
> Message-Id: <199706230940.TAA01582@random.tpgi.com.au>
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> For the second year in a row the organiserswere faced with a very wet
> weekend and to give them credit they coped without panic. The start time
> was put back to reduce night riding to the minimum and believe it or not
> the track where it was considered too dangeous for the conditions was
> bipassed and this meant remarking the track in the dark on Saturday night;
> Achieved with difficulty but efficiency.
> Down to the nitty gritty: 55 horses started and 36 managed to better the
> conditions to complete on what was mostly very slipperyand boggy going
> throug state forestry.
> M/W H/W
> =1st Bruce Overton 4h33m 1st Noel Wisemann 5h33m
> =1st Peter Mounsey B/C 2nd David Somerville
> B/C
> 3rd Brook Sample 3rd Chris Pollitt
> 4th Tim Wisemann 4th Ken Warne
> 5th Kim Hennessy
> L/W Junior
> 1st Lyn Annetts 5h34m !st John Bond B/C 5h28m
> 2nd Heidi Heywood B/C 2nd Michael Shaw
> 3rd Deborah Hardie 3rd Lizzie Turner
> 4th Madonna Faux 4th Jane Pollitt
> 5th Leita Gentna 5th Tabatha Johnston
> Note: The combined age of the joint winners M/W is 136.
> Congratulation to Rio and Becky Hart in achieving a milestone of 10,000
> miles from all of us in Australia including the guy who had the unfortunate
> task of pulling Rio in Holland. I wager that very few horses will ever be
> able to emulate this feat.
> Bruce from Downunder
> Queenslander
> boverton@tpgi.com.au
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:57:13 +0200
> From: Frank Mechelhoff <fmechelh@c-s-k.de>
> To: Ridecamp <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Pulse problems (sorry, this is long)
> Message-ID: <33AE5689.C84B6F12@c-s-k.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi Group,
>
> Working hard for years fixing problems (with behaviour, indifferent
> lameness and other stuff) with Ligeira, my 12 yr. partbred-arab mare,
> now I fear I've got a new one and would like to get some ideas what it
> could be.
>
> NEVER had any problems with regeneration. Sorted it out as a typical
> "beginner's failure"- untill it happened to myself !
> The first two rides of the season, she was brilliant. Running well, no
> lameness, recovery superb despite of high speed. Then, 5 weeks ago, the
> last vetcheck of a 40-mile ride. second lap, speed was medium (~ 6-7
> mph). riding pulse (trotting, cantering) was 130-140, quite OK for her.
> No signs of fatigue. Get into the check, pulse 80. after 20 minutes:
> 72-76, out ! (criteria here is 64 after 20 min). Let her eat, standing
> in the shadow, wash her, walking around - nothing worked. It wasn't too
> hot really (aside she had never any problems competing on hot days!).
> So I monitored her several hours. pulse stayed elevated (64-80),
> wandering, for about 6 hours. Apart from this, she behaved absolutely
> normal, grasing, looking fine, not depressed. amazing...
> I let my vet perform a general examination, doppings analysis and blood
> test. Result was: some higher muscle enzyms (but no too high), Selenium
> and Zinc a bit low, liver values something poor. No real result.
> stethoscoped the heart, said it's fine.
> Let her in the pasture some days, feed some supplements (not convinced
> having found the reason). Lowered the ridden miles.
> Next competition, a difficult mountainious 50-miler, 3 weeks ago. coming
> into finish 4th (overall speed 8 mph, but going really slowly the last
> km's) the same story happened again ! pulse in 80, after 20 min: 76,
> out. There was no previous warning, she performed absolutely fine. pulse
> stood elevated and wandering, for some hours, again.
>
> I concluded she must be overtrained. Put her on the pasture, ponied her
> along with my other horses for 1-2 rides. Noticed that it does no good
> for her staying on the pasture. Got off feed (eating well when ridden),
> looking miserable. As I forced her to eat her feed, she put on weight
> slowly and looked better.
> I decide to let a friend ride her on my own ride, last week. 60 mls,
> difficult terrain. She was really slow, took more than 12 hours.
> Nevertheless, Ligeira looked stressed. In the finish, she was vetted
> with 56, but it was luck. I monitored her with 60-80, even 4 hours after
> completing. I slowly got the impression that the problem is independant
> form the speed and let the ride's vet perform another blood test. He
> found some slightly increased muscle enzym values, but nothing special.
> Within 2-3 days she recovered from the ride completely. YESTERDAY, I
> accompagnied a friend the fist leg of a 4-day horse hike. We covered 43
> miles, within 9 hours. Even she was not even moist when we arrived at
> home, the pulse was even high now! Everything else was normal, and she
> eats her dinner.
> This morning she looked well recovered and eats her breakfast, resting
> pulse was 45 (slightly increased, 32-40 normal).
>
> I would conclude that she's overtrained, but she LOVES the work. She is
> very ambitious, I have to hold back her every time. When working hard,
> she is calm, relaxed, friendly, happy and eats well afterwards. I
> suppose there is a hidden lack, or defect. I don't believe it's the
> heart ifself. She has everyting usually called "heart", is extreme
> courageous, sprints so fast I never dare to test it, has a max.
> heartrate of >235, can gallop ~15 mph with a 135 pulse.
>
> I have to add, she is no easy keeper. I have to watch her weight
> carefully, even in the pasture season. On the "body score scale", I
> would give her a 4 - 4,5 most of the time. She never was "fat". In the
> ride season we are riding 60 miles weekly avarage, mostly slow (total
> speed avg. may be 5 mph), no really hard training. At a ride, she
> doesn't drink for the first 25 mls. and tends to be slightly dehydrated.
> Also on the pasture she is the last horse going to the water, or the
> salt-stone or mineral-supplement as well. Seems to be a "desert type".
>
> Any idea what this could be ??? I'm still tapping in the dark...
>
> regards
> FRANK
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 97 07:08:15 EST
> From: "Bonnie Snodgrass" <snodgrab@ncr.disa.mil>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: ROC Results?
> Message-Id: <9705238670.AA867075374@ncr.disa.mil>
>
> Anyone know anything yet about the results from Gladstone?
>
> Bonnie Snodgrass
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 09:05:22 -0400
> From: karriew@juno.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: farrier questions
> Message-ID: <19970623.091458.6742.1.karriew@juno.com>
>
> I don't understand why someone DOESNT want to be there when their horses
> are having ANYTHING done to them. (Farrier, vet work, etc) If a problem
> is found that you may not have known about the farrier/ vet is right
> there to explain, you are there to hold the horse, you also want to be
> there to SEE what is being done, and the farrier/ vet wants you there so
> that you can't blame them for something wrong with the horse that may
> show up the next day that had nothing to do with the visit. There are
> just too many reasons! Besides, I know my horse wouldn't be as calm for
> all this work if I am not around. (She is a major worry wart.)
>
> Karolyn
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 09:50:03 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Arabryder@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Never Pay for Advertising Again.
> Message-ID: <970623095002_339457041@emout18.mail.aol.com>
>
> Why are we receiving this type of email on Ridecamp????? How is it
> endurance-related??????
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 97 09:52:05 EST
> From: "Bonnie Snodgrass" <snodgrab@ncr.disa.mil>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Pulse problems (sorry, this is long)
> Message-Id: <9705238670.AA867084817@ncr.disa.mil>
>
> I am wondering about the possibility of this being a Selenium
> dificiency? Where do you live? Is it a deficient area? I say this
> because of a problem a friend had with a TB years ago. Slowly
> decreasing performance, no pulse monitoring done by her. She let it
> slide for a long time and by the time she had the vet out the heart
> was in distress. He never had any noticeable problems with any muscles
> except the heart muscle. Immediate Selenium treatment by the vet
> started him on recovery but he did have permanent damage to his heart
> and was unable to work under stress again.
>
> You did say the Selenium level was low on your horse. Just a thought.
>
> Bonnie Snodgrass
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Pulse problems (sorry, this is long)
> Author: ridecamp@endurance.net at smtp
> Date: 6/23/97 6:59 AM
>
> Hi Group,
>
> Working hard for years fixing problems (with behaviour, indifferent
> lameness and other stuff) with Ligeira, my 12 yr. partbred-arab mare,
> now I fear I've got a new one and would like to get some ideas what it
> could be.
>
> NEVER had any problems with regeneration. Sorted it out as a typical
> "beginner's failure"- untill it happened to myself !
> The first two rides of the season, she was brilliant. Running well, no
> lameness, recovery superb despite of high speed. Then, 5 weeks ago, the
> last vetcheck of a 40-mile ride. second lap, speed was medium (~ 6-7
> mph). riding pulse (trotting, cantering) was 130-140, quite OK for her.
> No signs of fatigue. Get into the check, pulse 80. after 20 minutes:
> 72-76, out ! (criteria here is 64 after 20 min). Let her eat, standing
> in the shadow, wash her, walking around - nothing worked. It wasn't too
> hot really (aside she had never any problems competing on hot days!). So
> I monitored her several hours. pulse stayed elevated (64-80), wandering,
> for about 6 hours. Apart from this, she behaved absolutely normal,
> grasing, looking fine, not depressed. amazing...
> I let my vet perform a general examination, doppings analysis and blood
> test. Result was: some higher muscle enzyms (but no too high), Selenium
> and Zinc a bit low, liver values something poor. No real result.
> stethoscoped the heart, said it's fine.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:47:55 -0400
> From: truman.prevatt@netsrq.com (Truman Prevatt)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Stop Over In Kansas
> Message-Id: <v01540b01afd43c983081@[198.252.56.89]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> We will be driving out to CO about the 10th of July. Currently the most
> logical break point is a West of Kansas City. The reason West is I don't
> want to try Kansas City during moring rush hour. Dose any one have any
> info about places to camp over night with two horses near Kansas City?
>
> Thanks
> Truman
>
> Truman Prevatt
> Mystic "The Horse form Hell" Storm with a lille hellion on the way
> Danson "Deamon in Training" Flame
> Sarasota, FL
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:51:53 +0200
> From: Frank Mechelhoff <fmechelh@c-s-k.de>
> To: Bonnie Snodgrass <snodgrab@ncr.disa.mil>
> CC: Ridecamp <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Re: Pulse problems/ Selenium
> Message-ID: <33AE8D89.5C2318D6@c-s-k.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Bonnie Snodgrass wrote:
>
> > I am wondering about the possibility of this being a Selenium
> > dificiency? Where do you live? Is it a deficient area?
>
> It's a mountainous area here in Germany. I have no soil analysis made,
> but the vet said commonly this is no Se-deficient area. The Se-value was
> *slightly* below the "low" limit of scale, so he said there might be no
> serious deficit (sorry, don't have the actual values on hand now).Now I
> add a Vitamin-E/ Lysin/ Selenium-supplement and keep attention.
> I'm sure she has enough Vit.E, Vit.A, carotine etc. because she gets
> lots of young and green grass. Till end of April she performed very well
> feeded with hay, although the Vit.E-content of hay is poor.
> I read that blood analysis does *not* show lack of certain minerals or
> elements unconditionally, because the body tends to accumulate reserves
> and keep the level within the blood constant for some of them. I'm
> wondering if this is true for Se (as for potassium). My vet couldn't
> answer this.
> Magnesium, Jodine or Thyroid are also under suspicion.
> Still very few informations.
>
> Hm... are there some of the experts/scientists lurking ?
>
> Thanks for your input, Bonnie.
>
> FRANK
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:00:41 -0400 (EDT)
> From: ISLNDGRL@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Wanted Sports Saddle
> Message-ID: <970623105949_980527472@emout07.mail.aol.com>
>
> I am posting this for a friend please e-mail me privately.
> Wanted : Black Sports Saddle
> 14 in. seat
> I lost the address of the person advertising this saddle.
> Thanks
> Kathy
> Jupiter, Fl
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 07:47:30 -0700
> From: Stephanie Teeter <step@fsr.com>
> To: "'ridecamp@endurance.net'" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: FW: Horse for Sale
> Message-ID: <01BC7FAA.CB69AEC0@step@fsr.com>
>
> Big Lipizzaner cross grade mare for sale. She is 16h, 12years, and is solid as a
> rock. She is trained in dressage but does not have the concentration to do test
> work. This horse is strong and has energy to go and go and is very
> controllable. $7500.00 dawnr@sprynet.com or 517-625-6462.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:13:32 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Shoafy@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: ridecamp-d Digest V97 #410
> Message-ID: <970623111320_1655157132@emout10.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-06-21 23:27:54 EDT, you write:
>
> << Would appreciate any feedback on use and success stories with these 3 =
> products and how they are best used. We have a 10 year old endurance =
> horse competing in 100 miles and doing very well. We would like him to =
> have a long and ever more succesful career. I beleive these products =
> can be used preventatively and enhance and lengthen an endurance horse's =
> career as he ages. Would like to hear from those of you who have had =
> experience with these products and any advise or hindsight you may now =
> have. Thanks, Bernita
> >>
>
> I too believe these products can be used preventatively and use them as such.
> Intially my mare had a round of 7 adequan injections and now gets one about 3
> days before a long , hard ride (50 miles +). I also use J-Flex in the feed
> daily. I think if I am going to ask her to work this hard, it's my
> responsibility to utilize whatever is available (that works) to help her do
> it.
>
> Donna in Altoona
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:43 -0400 (EDT)
> From: SandyDSA@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Registration questions
> Message-ID: <970623104910_135718020@emout09.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-06-23 00:58:06 EDT, you write:
>
> << I looked at a 12 yr. old gelding (named Indian Radiance) yesterday and had
> questions about the papers. The horse originally came from El Cajon, CA
> and the breeders name was Durban (if I remember correctly) and the sire was
> Indian Banner. Anyway, the papers were never sent in for transfer of
> ownership so they have a signature from 1994. Does anyone know if there
> might be any problems transfering these papers? Is anyone familiar with
> this bloodline?
>
> Happy Trails,
> Carol
> >>
> Carol,
> Having had several clients who had these kind of problems, generally, if the
> papers are correctly signed over by the recorded owner (the name on the front
> of the papers) you are essentially skipping an "owner. But since you now have
> the horse, it should be as s imple as sending them in with a payment for the
> rather LARGE transfer fee that muct now be owed if the papers were signed
> over in 1994. They mare ask for a copy of your bill of sale. Good luck!
> P.S. Crabbet
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:33:35 -0700
> From: Stephanie Teeter <step@fsr.com>
> To: "'ridecamp@endurance.net'" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: XP 5-day results
> Message-ID: <01BC7FB0.31B74FC0@step@fsr.com>
>
> Ok, here are the 5-day results of the XP 5-day ride. I don't have the
> individual day results, but Dave may be able to post them later. For
> the actual cummulative ride time, add 24 hours to the number that you see.
>
> I'm going to do a full write-up on the event when I get a little
> more time - what a great experience!
>
> On day 4, R.O. Grand Sultan reached his 10,000 AERC mile marker.
> He also finished first on that day, and was awarded over-all (5-day) best
> condition!
>
> I've been off ridecamp since June 16 - a combination of technical
> and administration difficulties - but will try to catch up this week.
> Hopefully things have been running smoothly....
>
> later,
>
> Steph Teeter
> http://www.endurance.net
> http://www.horse-shop.com
>
> REUDY, BRENDA BEZABLISS 2:00:40
> JAMES, NANCY EDENS NAJEM 3:06:30
> JACKSON, DEAN BELISAMO TRADITION 4:17:20
> JACKSON, MJ EDENS BAY RUM 4:19:30
> HART, BECKY R O GRAND SULTAN 4:34:30
> HENSLEE, PATRICIA HCC SOLSZAR 4:49:00
> BARTHOLOMEW, PHYLISS MERAB AUSHWEBE 6:37:40
> OGUS, JUDITH FAMES EXCITEMENT 7:30:30
> WACHENHEIM, BETH ZARKURIA HCC 9:44:20
> WACHENHEIM, SCOTT TATS SOCKITTOUM 9:44:30
> REINKE, BARBARA O HENRY BEY 9:52:20
> CRONNELY, ROY EMIRAT 10:41:30
> SCHROEDER-TEETER, STEPHANIE NATURES KRUSHEV 11:01:20
> PETICOLAS-STROUD, RAMEY FADWAHS SONRISA 11:26:30
> STEENHOF, KAREN CYANDARAC 11:55:10
> PARSON, HEATHER SERYA ROBASK 12:25:20
> BUMGARDNER, JACKIE ZAYANTE 12:25:30
> NETUSCHIL, PAMELA SHA TIR KABREET(LIPS) 12:56:40
> HOLLAND, CLAIRE JACKSON 13:39:10
> ROSS, KIMBERLY MR MAN 14:50:30
> JAYKO, LARRY OVERLOOK BARCLAY(CODY) 14:51:00
> JOHNSON, KELSY FIRE MOUNTAIN SMOKILA 15:33:10
> JOHNSON, CHRIS FA SPECIAL EDITION 15:33:50
> COOK, MARIE JETTIE B 15:40:10
> BERGEZ, BRIT PRINCESS 15:40:40
> HORST, LAURA LADY BE GAI 16:15:10
> CAPRINO, JULIE ATLANTYS 16:25:10
> BRISCOE, CHERI MMF FARAMIR 16:28:10
> PORTER, LAINEY TULIP 16:37:10
> THOMPSON, LINDA MC BANNER 16:55:50
> DEPIETRO, SALLY EASY MONEY 17:06:50
> JOHNSON, CAROLYN STEELEY DAN 17:16:00
> DYKE, SKIP YJR ZIPPER 17:33:20
> FALCONE, MARK NAREV 17:37:30
> DEMAY, LESLIE SECOND CHANCE 17:58:30
> DEMAY, GEORGE OROZON 17:59:00
> SKINNER, SANDY SH BASKARI 18:03:00
> SKINNER, DON SHA FREEDOM 18:03:40
> BECKER, DRIN CW DIAMOND JIM 18:38:00
> GOPPERT, TED ALIMARS CHANTEL 20:03:20
> SNOEYENBOS, ELLEN R-TWO BEAU DOC 20:12:30
> MCGRATH, JANE FIRE MOUNTAIN SCAMP 23:14:30
> KEENE, LINDA FIRE MT RUSHMORE 23:15:10
> DRISCOL, CHARMAINE FAMES FAIRREENA 24:48:20
> TUTEUR, JESSICA FADWAHS LILY 24:48:50
> PEDERSON, TRILBY M BEN FARWIZ 28:53:00
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:39:40 -0400
> From: karriew@juno.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: endurance dogs
> Message-ID: <19970623.113943.6742.6.karriew@juno.com>
>
> I agree, dogs shouldn't go on the trails with riders. We used to let our
> dogs follow us on rides, and they just got to be too much to handle. They
> would chase deer (and other small furry things) not to mention make a
> complete mess of themselves from all the dirt, mud and water. Not only
> that, it got to the point that they wouldn't get out of the road when we
> weren't in the woods. Yet on the ground they listen completely, there is
> something about being in a saddle that they doen't listen as well. (Maybe
> they know it would be too much of a hassle for me to get down and beat em
> up!) Also, on occasion, when they come ripping out of the woods from
> chasing something, they can startle the horses (that otherwise are
> tolerant) While I love dogs, keep them off the trails.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:45:51 -0700
> From: shurley@cypressres.com (Stasia Hurley)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Oakland Hills Thanks
> Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970623104550.006c33ec@mail.cypressres.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Oakland Hills Ride, Oakland Hills CA
>
> Thanks to the Fends for putting on such a great ride. From my position as
> tailend charlie (96th), trails were well marked, volunteers were very nice
> and helpful; everything was really, well, great. I have no idea about the
> placings, I only remember that in the 50 there were 117 starters and 99
> finishers. Congratulations to all.
>
> Stasia
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:55:39 -0700
> From: DreamWeaver <karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Dogs, Farriers, etc.
> Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970623175539.0067bd44@mail.greatbasin.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Just to offer a different perspective on the subject....
>
> I LOVE taking my dog with me on trail rides. First of all, I ride alone
> most of the time and she provides me great company. In addition, I
> appreciate the extra bit of security having a dog along provides. I am very
> fortunate to have a breed of dog that will stick to my side. (and we took
> her to obedience school) She follows behind the horse very nicely, at a
> safe distance and is constantly aware of where I am. She will not run off
> to chase any wild animals, as she knows it is her job to stay with her
> 'herd'. She is a working dog and this is her 'job'. I have yet to have
> one of my horses startled by a dog jumping out of the brush. Are you
> kidding, with all of the mountain bikes, motorcycles, rabbits, squirrels,
> coyotes, mt. lions, quail, and flocks of birds flying up - they better be
> able to handle a dog. ;^)
>
> On the subject of farriers...yes it would be nice if I could take off work
> everytime my farrier comes out to do my two horses. However, at $120 a pop
> every 5-6 weeks, somebody has to work to pay for it. I feel very fortunate
> that: 1) I have a competent farrier that I can trust to do an excellent
> job and 2) I have two horses that are very well behaved, even in my
> absence. If there is something I need to know, he will call me. Of course
> I do like to be there whenever possible, but it sure is nice that I don't
> have to be.
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Karen
> in Gardnerville
> & Dream Weaver 775 miles...next ride Tevis :)
> & Rocky 100 miles
>
> --------------------------------
> End of ridecamp-d Digest V97 Issue #413
> ***************************************re: pulse problems
Sounds like there might be some subtle tieing up occurring late in the
ride...the milder form toward the end of the ride. Wonder what the
urine color looks like ? He may be comfortable in the muscles, but the
chemical balance is off, thus the elevated heart rate. Also might look
at calorie/protein intake for the work load your asking the horse to do.
Maybe 3x a week at 40 miles, but some interval work would work, and cut
back to stemmy hay on the off days.

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