ridecamp@endurance.net: Scratches

Scratches

Pete Occhialini (poko@jps.net)
Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:44:26 -0800

ridecamp-d-request@endurance.net wrote:
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ridecamp-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 183
>
> Today's Topics:
> What consitutes an overly long pastern and should support boots be used?
> Re: what about keeping the horse in trailer for the night?
> Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Re: observation
> Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Re: observation
> Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Sue Norris(Saare saddle)
> Chicken Chase Ride
> Re: National Showhorses?
> Donna Snyder Smith Clinic
> Nutrena,GAGs
> Re: Hill training and is he using his haunches?
> Re: Hill training and is he using his haunches?
> Re: Multi day conditioning - question complete
> Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Re: lights around pens
> Truman's post about attitude
> electric corrals & rain./comments
> Attention Michigan riders!!!!
> Re: Judging a trot on the ground
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 21:53:47 -0800
> From: keithr@nocdc.bc.ca (Ann Hatfield)
> To: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: What consitutes an overly long pastern and should support boots be used?
> Message-ID: <19970316055649331.AAA252@hatfield>
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> Hi, all:
>
> I really appreciate the knowlegeable discussions on conformation. I have
> to admit not having gone through all the archives from 95 forward. Has
> there been any thing on studies on what constitures an overly angulated or
> overly long pastern? I'd be interested in this not just with regards
> endurance but all sorts of equine sport. Can an endurance horse for
> example 'get away with' a longer, shallower pastern than a jumper? If no
> studies, does anecdotal evidence show that sloping pasterns really do break
> down faster with endurance riding than steeper, more upright ones?
>
> Rif (one of the two I saved from going to the canners) has a longer pastern
> than any other horse I have presently or have had. I also think he is a
> bit steeper in the shoulder than my 'old' horse. He doesn't touch the
> ground as he flexes but he is low compared to the other horses. His
> movement otherwise is good for a very green, unbalanced, uncollected horse
> and he is the smootest ride I Ihave ever experienced short of a gaited
> horse. I want to ride him in some endurance rides, probably no 100's,
> probably a 50 or two, and probably only 2 to 4 rides a year. I also want
> to try him at jumping. I don't want to do him damage if his body structure
> just isn't suitable.
>
> Have been conditioning on the road for about 6 weeks (too snowy to get
> anywhere off-road and snowed again today-what a late spring!) I want to
> strengthen (toughen up?) tendons and ligments as well as do cardio work as
> soon as possible and I wonder if I should buy some kind of suspensory
> support boots. Are they useful? All 4? Just fronts? Should I work him in
> the bush in the longer, slower early part of conditioning without boots to
> do this 'toughening up' of tendons etc.? Even if they don't do a lot of
> good as structural support should I invest in them anyway just to protect
> his fetlocks from bruising or grazing? ( And up here invest is the
> word-they're pretty expensive in Canadian dollars.) Have any of you used
> any brand with more success than any other? Are boots such as these
> allowed on rides?
>
> I have done P and R at one ride, volunteered on a competitive trail ride,
> and ridden in one 35 endurance and I don't remember whether any of the
> horses wore anything other than brushing boots. In considerable
> riding-for-pleasure-distance, and that one 35, I have not had to use any
> boots on my 'old' horse as she never did herself damage nor ever came up
> lame.
>
> Thanks for any advice you people can give me.
>
> Do you folks know there is a ride in the Okanagan Valley, central southern
> B.C. each spring? It's the Lil Schmidt Memorial and I think will be held
> in May, though I haven't had any notice of it this year. With our late
> snow in this valley and a green horse I won't be competitive but I will try
> to go anyway just for the experience for both of us.
>
> Ann
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:22:36 -0800
> From: keithr@nocdc.bc.ca (Ann Hatfield)
> To: "Becky Huffman " <hhcc1@htcomp.net>
> Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Re: what about keeping the horse in trailer for the night?
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> ----------
> > From: Becky Huffman <hhcc1@htcomp.net>
> > To: Ann Hatfield <keithr@nocdc.bc.ca>
> > Cc: ride camp <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> > Subject: Re: what about keeping the horse in trailer for the night?
> > Date: Saturday, March 15, 1997 7:36 PM
> > Hi,Becky:
>
> Thanks for the response. And for not laughing about the lights! I saw
> some, a strand of little Christmas lights, somehow run off a truck's
> battery once and it struck me that it might just work in this situation.
>
> Am I being slow over this part? Why do you put feed and water at opposite
> ends? On the trail or at home my guys usually have free access to both at
> the same time. So far this hasn't caused problems. If the water isn't
> handy then I give then a drink first then feed.
>
> > I've never had any problems with this, but haven't done it
> > more than a few times. would be interested to know what others have
> > experienced. I am always careful to put feed/water at opposite ends.
> >
> > I'm glad to hear that the trailer-hotel has worked out for your horse. I
> think I'll try it. The only disadvantages I can think of are a cast horse
> and thumping about all night, but as someone else pointed out, a tied horse
> with a couple of buckets is pretty darn noisy, too!
>
> Ann
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:35:02 -0500 (EST)
> From: Arabryder@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Message-ID: <970316013500_-1739903483@emout11.mail.aol.com>
>
> I think one point to be made is that "clicking" as it was referred to is not
> usually associated with interference. "Clicking" usually is caused by
> forging, when the back hoof overreaches and clips the front shoe. These are
> very different phenomena in gait. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has
> input about how each of these can effect the smoothness of the gait.
>
> My 12 year old Polish gelding does interfer sometimes because he has a
> slightly crooked front leg but has never forged. He also has the smoothest
> gaits I've ever experienced. His breeding is evident -
> Indraff/Raffles/Skowronek. He's blessed with a long floaty trot, among other
> things. I have a video tape that was published by the Arabian Horse Trust
> showing Skowronek back in the 20s and that's definitely where the gaits came
> from.
>
> Diana & Countach
> San Jose, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 07:48:40 -0500 (EST)
> From: Trishmare@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: observation
> Message-ID: <970316074838_1781384699@emout11.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-03-15 23:08:16 EST, you write:
>
> << One would normally think that more people would be spending time at
> the keyboard outside standard working hours, ex: over the weekend.
> Ride camp just about dies sometime during the day Friday and doesn't
> pickup until Sunday nite/Monday. >>
>
> I've noticed the same thing. My guess is that everyone is riding. It is the
> weekend you know. I work from home, but a lot of people still do the 9 to 5,
> Mon.-Fri, thing. I did for years, and spent weekends at the barn.
> Trish & "pretty David"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:58:25 -0800
> From: jakar@aiinc.com (Reynolds, Nikki )
> To: Arabryder@aol.com
> CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Message-ID: <332BEE71.602E@aiinc.com>
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> ..I'd be interested to hear if anyone has
> > input about how each of these can effect the smoothness of the gait...
>
> My Arab gelding, Jakar, forges at times. Mostly, he does it on uneven
> ground and I've noticed while longing that he tucks his back feet
> directly under his fronts at the trot. When worked with Easyboots, he
> has scuff marks all up the fronts of his rear feet. He's never pulled a
> shoe in the three years I've had him, nor does he bruise the walls of
> his white rear hooves. He doesn't interfere at all. He stays shod and
> used year-round.
> Jakar is very smooth riding, and before we got our SS, did most of our
> training bareback. He is of Egyptian breeding predominately through the
> Nazeer, Moniet, and Fadl lines, and also has a smattering of CMK
> throughout his dam's side.
> He isn't a compact horse. He stands 15-15.1 and has a longer back and
> longer legs than most. He has enough room underneath that he doesn't
> need to widen up in the rear to clear his fronts, except in his biggest
> trot. I like a medium trot for distance work, so we only do the giant
> trot in training to strengthen his "motor" muscles. The canter is much
> easier on the him than that big trot and makes more sense in
> competition.
> His biggest fault is his droopy back, which most western-type saddles
> bridged. (Pay attention breeders, we need better shaped backs in this
> breed. I'm not the only one with this complaint.)
> Jakar also tends to square off his rear toes by dragging them. He does
> this mostly when just wandering around his pasture, but will do it under
> saddle unless I keep him in a marching walk. Our farrier has rolled the
> toes on all fours and stood him up more to around a 50 degree angle
> gradually over the past two year's shoeings. He also hardened the rear
> shoes to avoid having them only half-width at the toes by his six week
> shoeing during the heavy riding seasons. He seems to go well like this
> and is still every bit as smooth as ever.
> Nikki and Jakar
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 05:08:40 -0800
> From: jakar@aiinc.com (Reynolds, Nikki )
> To: Trishmare@aol.com
> CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: observation
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> > Ride camp just about dies sometime during the day Friday and doesn't
> > pickup until Sunday nite/Monday...
>
> Hehe...I get up at between 4:30 and 5am to read and write to all of
> you. It's just too doggone dark out there and the coyotes are still
> looking for something to eat. I think I'll wait for the predawn, thank
> you!
> Nikki and Jakar (who's outside all alone with the boogie man!)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:29:32 -0500 (EST)
> From: Trishmare@aol.com
> To: jakar@aiinc.com
> cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Message-ID: <970316082931_1284599232@emout04.mail.aol.com>
>
> My arab David ("A King David") also tends to forge at the trot. He is short
> backed and long legged. Short cannons, relatively long shoulder, medium
> forearm, long from elbow to knee. I am hoping that dressage work will
> help--he has never pulled a shoe, he HAS injured the bulb of his hoof by
> stepping on it but that was when he was very green and unused to carrying a
> rider. He goes in protective bell-boots now, and I hope i won't have to use
> them when we start doing the distances. As i said, I hope the dressage
> training helps--we'll see!
> Trish & "pretty David"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:19:51 UT
> From: "outwestposse " <OutWestPosse@msn.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Sue Norris(Saare saddle)
> Message-Id: <UPMAIL06.199703161416040403@msn.com>
>
> Sue,
>
> I just now got your message.
>
> I am selling my Sharon Saare saddle ....and now have lowered the price
>
> because I need the $. It is an F tree size and only used for 1 season...so it
> is in great shape. It has a padded seat, brass fittings and no horn. I am
> including one of her happy back pads w/ gel inserts.
>
> Let me know your e-mail address, and I will e-mail you privately..if you want
> to talk further.
> (OH....I must still be sleeping...the price is $500.000)
> Kathleen
> OutWestPosse@msn.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:40:44 -0500
> From: Pat Gluckin <a1234@gte.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Chicken Chase Ride
> Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970316144044.2c4fb594@mail.gte.net>
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>
> Anybody out there planning to ride at the Chicken Chase in Henryville,
> Indiana on April 19 & 20?? My daughter and I will be going down there to
> observe and help if anyone would like a couple of beginners willing to
> volunteer their brawn. Can't offer much else since we hope to use this
> summer as our learning season.
>
> Would love to put some faces to the names that I read regularly. You all
> have contributed to our growing interest in Endurance riding. We've even
> started our hope chest.
>
> Pat
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:36:25 -0800
> From: Jerry & Susan Milam <jdmilam@fwb.gulf.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: National Showhorses?
> Message-ID: <332C2189.270E@fwb.gulf.net>
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> Jerry & Susan Milam wrote:
> >
> > Jerry & Susan Milam wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a friend who has been leasing a nice Arab-Saddlebred mix 16h
> > > gelding. She's a heavyweight and needs a large animal and loves the NSH
> > > gaits.
> > >
> > > Does anyone out there know of a breeder in the SE region of National
> > > Showhorses or a horse for sale in this breed? Thanks in advance!:)
> > >
>
> > > Happy Tails
> > > Susan & Sabian
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:30:12 -0500 (EST)
> From: CTRR@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Donna Snyder Smith Clinic
> Message-ID: <970316103012_-1438675589@emout01.mail.aol.com>
>
> A friend of mine is sponsoring a clinic given by Donna Snyder-Smith in
> Shaftsbury, Vermont. The cost for the weekend (June 28 and 29) is 275,
> including breakfast and lunch. If interested call Mary Macura 518 747 3440 or
> Nancy Okun 802 824 3829. It is limited to 10 riders. Sandy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:44:42 -0500 (EST)
> From: ISLNDGRL@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Nutrena,GAGs
> Message-ID: <970316124441_1881901433@emout13.mail.aol.com>
>
> I used to use the Nutrena feed (from the Farr selection) Maintain. A 10%
> sweet feed with high fat content...they call it their high energy feed. I
> really liked the stuff . I know people who add Athlete to it during
> training. I had to change because I changed horses and needed a 12% feed.
> If it came in 12% I would use it though.I just got a new product from my
> homeopathic vet. It's called Arthri-Soothe it has both chondroitin sulfate
> and glucosamine in it as well as anti-inflammatory herbs of Yucca ,
> boswellia,schidgera, and Vit C and E. The 75 day supply for a horse was
> $75.00 before shipping and handling. It also comes in a strength for
> dogs. (which is what I ordered from her now I've got to switch it out.
> Idon't know if it is less money...I will find out.) I have the utmost
> confidence in this vet (Peggy Fleming) when she says a product is
> great...that's enough for me. For info call 1-800-628-8783 California
>
> I have enjoyed reading about other horses doing distance..gives me
> encouragement on my Morgan. The discussion of the high stepping TWH
> makes me nervous with regard to the show ring for Morgans.....each cover of
> the Morgan Horse has a picture of a Morgan with their knees to their
> chins. As for me I love the "old type " Morgan.
> I am sitting on the fence with regard to this disclosure of non-payment
> stuff. I was stiffed the money for shipping and handling of a sports
> saddle I sold to someone on this list. I called, wrote, and emailed and
> never got the money nor heard from her again. The hair went up on the
> back of my neck when I saw that she has become a sports saddle dist.
>
> Thanks for all of those wonderful stories....Susan I haven't laughed that
> hard in a long time...keep them coming!!
> Enjoy Spring
>
> Kathy and Moriah (when do I get to go out with the big guys?)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:00:55 -0500 (EST)
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Hill training and is he using his haunches?
> Message-ID: <970316130054_919869665@emout04.mail.aol.com>
>
> After 3 workouts--say 10 days--if you are achieving a new muscle demand,
> those muscles effected will begin to increase in size (hypertrophy). That is,
> if your nutritional intake (protein/carbs) is adequate. Measure girth of
> muscles now, measure them later, and you'll have a accurate picture of the
> development caused by your exercise.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:27:11 -0500 (EST)
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Hill training and is he using his haunches?
> Message-ID: <970316132711_1614111742@emout11.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-03-15 23:02:29 EST, you write:
>
> << I have lots of good hills, but have had some back problems(last 6-8
> months) since moving here (2 1/2 years). I corrected some problems
> that were keeping his back hollow and now having trouble getting him
> to round up. We are doing lots of cavaletti, but I'm kinda scared
> to get back on the hills.
>
> Would be very interested in training exercises for this.
>
> Becky >>
>
> Becky,
>
> You have to be very careful with hills. They're great exercise, but not
> exercise-to-fatigue kind of exercise. I would spend 3-1 of my exercise time
> on the flat--doing strong exercise that will support hill work--and then
> attack the hills with a fresh horse, never letting him become fatigued enough
> to lose form.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:22:09 -0500 (EST)
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Multi day conditioning - question complete
> Message-ID: <970316132208_108591736@emout11.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-03-15 21:55:37 EST, you write:
>
> << Obviously I'm not use to this keyboard, for I keep sending my letter
> before
> I've
> finished. I will try one more time. I plan on doing a two day fifty the
> beginning
> of May. How do I know if my horse is ready? My training consists of two
> short
> rides of about 8 miles during the week and a longer ride of about 15 to 20
> miles
> on the weekend. He handles this well. My rides during the week are every
> other day. Thanks for bearing with me.
>
> Gracelyn and Rushcreek Equal
> >>
>
> In the end, it's going to be all numbers if you really want to predict
> readiness for a competition. For example, how fast are you working in your
> exercises and how fast does the competition go? At what heartrate are you
> currently working? Is your horse maintaining body weight? Gaining weight? Any
> signs of exercise intolerance at this point?
>
> It would appear to me that the in-week work might eventually want to increase
> its speed to the point where you can do 12 miles in the time it is currently
> taking you to deliver 8. The weekend work sounds about right--closer to 20
> than 15, though, as you build the horse. If you find your horse losing weight
> with increases in exercise, increase the volume of nutrition or back off.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:38:32 -0500 (EST)
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Message-ID: <970316133830_-1907303796@emout12.mail.aol.com>
>
> Definitions
>
> Interference: One foot, or part of a leg, comes in contact with the foot or
> other part of another leg. Clicking is forging (sometimes) is interference.
> If you have a horse that is clicking at the trot, then you have a horse that
> is interfering--banging part of his body together that are not supposed to
> come together.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:41:46 -0500 (EST)
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Message-ID: <970316134145_-1371669233@emout02.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-03-16 08:30:54 EST, you write:
> Trish:
> << My arab David ("A King David") also tends to forge at the trot. He is
> short
> backed and long legged. Short cannons, relatively long shoulder, medium
> forearm, long from elbow to knee. I am hoping that dressage work will
> help--he has never pulled a shoe, he HAS injured the bulb of his hoof by
> stepping on it but that was when he was very green and unused to carrying a
> rider. >>
>
> The very best solution to forging is to raise the angles in front, lower them
> behind (speed up the front and slow down the hind.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:26:05 -0600
> From: jackson@feist.com (Dan G. Jackson)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: lights around pens
> Message-Id: <199703161910.NAA10281@wichita.fn.net>
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>
> > > How about stringing small lights on a portable pen or around the
> > perimeter
> > > of an electric fence. Does this at least redirect loose horses
> > galumphing
> > > about in the dark, keep them from running through your pen?
>
> ???? little flashing lights might do better, but would require homework.
> as been my experience that most horses would run thru a brick wall in a
> panic or a 'really-good-time-with-the-loose-gang-in-the-dark'. at least
> flashing may get their attention.??
>
> The flashing strobe lights that bikers wear would work for this. They last
> for days. I use one when riding at night and accidentally left one on, so
> I know!
>
> Becki jackson
> ----------
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:39:08 -0600
> From: jackson@feist.com (Dan G. Jackson)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Truman's post about attitude
> Message-Id: <199703161923.NAA12317@wichita.fn.net>
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>
> < Son one who just walked up asked why I rode that horse
> if she were so bad. My answer was "I don't know I guess I just like that
> horse." To this day Ken reminds me of that comment when I start to grouss
> about the antics of my obnoxious mare.
>
> I think that is probably how most of us feel, we just like our horses,
> warts and all.
>
> Truman
>
> Who says "You can say anything you want about my spouse or my daughter, but
> one bad word about my horse and you just got yourself a fight."
> >
>
> Truman:
>
> Truer words were never spoken. Guess what it boils down to is that there
> aren't any perfect horses and it there were, how boring! Seriously, their
> attributes must outweigh their faults.
> I had a mare who was a witch to handle on the ground but abolutely
> wonderful once you were mounted. I just had to learn to put up with her
> idiosyncrasies. Really, I've never ridden a better horse. At the risk of
> starting a war-- maybe it's mares???? Just kidding folks!!
>
> Becki Jackson
> Don't have kids except ones with fur and don't you badmouth them!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:15:12 -0600 (CST)
> From: PLOUGH1@ix.netcom.com (KIMBERLY PRICE)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: electric corrals & rain./comments
> Message-Id: <199703161915.NAA01765@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com>
>
> How do the electric portable corrals hold up in the rain? Do most
> people turn off the current after the horses know they will get shocked
> from touching them?
>
> THANKS for the great posts written to me after I wrote in I was injured
> and bored! You'all are great! My arm is healing well and I recieved a
> good dose of common sense ... "listen to your inner voice....."
>
> I read mules are unforgiving while horses forgive. So all horse
> trainers are not mule trainers. Anyone else heard this?
>
> flexible trailer ties (or inner tubes)...now I know what was meant by
> using inner tubes. I dont use the flexible trailer ties inside my
> trailer as if the horse pulls back hard enough he can stretch it where
> his hind feet are out the door and could slip a leg under the trailer
> and break a leg. Mystery stretched it out the back of the trailer when
> I was first training him...very scarey. The key is training properly
> where they do not feel trapped and have cause to pull back. John Lyons
> techniques solved this problem for me.
>
> happy and safe riding to all,
> Kimberly (&Mystery the Morab.....still on vacation until end of
> month..)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 13:18:45 PST
> From: wood.cameron@acd.net (wood.cameron)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Attention Michigan riders!!!!
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> Hello all,
> While at the Michigan Stallion Expo this weekend here
> in E. Lansing, Mi., I visited the trails networking area, where I learned
> that there is going to be a MICHIGAN TRAILS RENDEZVOUS at the ingham county
> fairgrounds (Mason, MI) April 19th.
>
> I picked up a flyer...here's what's being offered......
>
> > BECKY HART will be in attendance!!!!
> > "the endurance horse" lecture by Susan Stinson-Sugzda
> > Competetive Mounted Orienteering info
> > Gaited Trail Horses (lecture)
> > Driving the trails
> > Used Tack & Trailer Mart
> > Youth Trail Groups, Horse Camping in Mich., Trail Riding
> Organizations, and More!
>
> The admission is 3$ Adults, 1$ Children. For More info, contact MHC
> Trail riders commitee (313) 654-6648
> (please don't ask me...I'm just passing along the word!!!)
>
> Shannon Weston & Yaled
> Laingsburg, Mi
>
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>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:19:51 -0500 (EST)
> From: Trishmare@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> cc: Tivers@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Judging a trot on the ground
> Message-ID: <970316171923_-1271116100@emout10.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-03-16 13:43:37 EST, you write:
>
> Dear "Ti", thanks for the advice! I printed out your post, am going to ask
> my farrier to trim as you suggest. I am blessed (cursed?) with a horse whose
> hooves grow as fast as my farrier can trim them and sometimes wonder if this
> isn't in itself the problem--! At least he always has plenty of hoof for his
> frequent resets!
> Trish & "pretty David"
>
> << My arab David ("A King David") also tends to forge at the trot. He is
> short
> backed and long legged. Short cannons, relatively long shoulder, medium
> forearm, long from elbow to knee. I am hoping that dressage work will
> help--he has never pulled a shoe, he HAS injured the bulb of his hoof by
> stepping on it but that was when he was very green and unused to carrying a
> rider. >>
>
> The very best solution to forging is to raise the angles in front, lower
> them
> behind (speed up the front and slow down the hind. >>
>
> --------------------------------
> End of ridecamp-d Digest V97 Issue #183
> ***************************************
Every year, when the weather warms up we run into a problem with
scratches. We are currently using a combination of an over the counter
cortisone cream and neosporin ointment. It is fairly effective, but
there always seems to be an underlying case waiting to pop up. We
bleach our splint boots after riding and clean the legs well, but we
seem to fight this all season long. Also, we are limited to how close
to a ride we can use the cortisone,(even though it is just a dab).
Would like to know if anyone has a better remedy for this chronic
problem? poko@jps.net

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