Re: New Shoes - Update

Jerry & Susan Milam (jdmilam@fwb.gulf.net)
Wed, 27 Nov 1996 05:41:31 -0800

Jerry & Susan Milam wrote:
>
> Jim Mitchell wrote:
> >
> > Tivers@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > You have to get your horse off herself because every "click" means that she's
> > > going to try to do something extra with her back, her hocks--any other part
> > > to try to get off herself--lameness, muscle soreness, back soreness--all
> > > these will result. Again, the principle that will work, a step at a time, is
> > > to shorten the toes and raise the angles in front--lengthen the toes and
> > > lower the angles behind. But it has to be done a little at a time--no more
> > > than 2 degrees change per shoeing.
> >
> > Tom
> > I've heard you should square or roll the rear feet as well. This speeds up both
> > breakovers and keeps the stride shorter. (I think) If you lengthen the rears you will
> > cause the rear feet to stay on the ground longer and then he will reach farther after it
> > does breakover increasing the likelihood of interference. (clicking) Also keeping the
> > feet on the ground longer would put increased stress on the tendons and hocks, areas we
> > need to avoid any additional stress on.
> > Also I believe the angle should match the fetlock angle (usually). This is the angle
> > of the hoof wall, not the angle to the rolled or squared point. I try never to mess with
> > this angle.
> > These are my understanding of the mechanics, further explanation of your answer would
> > help.
> > Also maturity seems to reduce the incidence of clicking, unfortunately I think it is
> > the loss of flexibility in maturing athletes that stops the clicking, so it may be a
> > sign of wear as well as a sign of a stronger, more balanced athlete.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jim Mitchell
> > Bakersfield, Ca.
> Thanks Group for ALL your fine Input.
>
> This is the latest about our birth pains. I've tried to get more
> information about how Sabian was shod. After continuing to look at the
> job...it still looks to me like a great shoe job. Here is some more
> techie data for you techies.
>
> Front toe length 3"
> Rear toe length 3 1/8-3 1/4
>
> Nick Locations
> L front heel bulb: 1 mark is high, lateral, 1" above coronary band
> 1 mark is lateral at the hoof line
>
> R front heel bulb: 1 mark on the inside of the medial bulb at the
> coronary band
>
**** Both rear hooves have hit marks 1/2" below hairline equal
distances from center; these seem more numerous than the heel bulb
hits.******

> Hoof angles as measured with a goniometer are 52-56 degrees.
>
> Hoof angles line up with pasterns well.
>
> I spoke with my farrier who is very expereienced with cutting and
> reining horses- never done an endurance horse before and explained that
> I needed to have some correction on Sabian's problem soon. He's had 3
> weeks of hoof growth since shoeing so let's make some changes. He' said
> he wanted to get a longer heel and shorter toe in front and possibly
> square the toes in back.
>
> I really think he's willing to work through this with us. I'll keep you
> informed.
>
> Many Thanks to All
>
> Susan and Sabian